diehardlionfan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 As Lions fans we are, as usual, looking forward to the draft at the half way point of the season. With draft capital from the Stafford trade as well as comp picks the Lions have numerous options. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) They are so bad. Truly, they are, Lions should just go off there big board. Doesn't even matter position. This teams lacks players, dogs, talent so bad, just draft the best players and collect. This is what I'd do. Idk if a QB is going to be considered really the best player when we select. I'd say go find a QB, Jared Goff experiment is over. He'll imo, likely be cut after June 1st.(Just my thoughts). They'll bring in another placer QB, Again just my thoughts on what they'll(Lions staff) will do. Idk if they're ready to tie themselves to a early QB selection yet. Hard to put a rookie into this situation and expect them to thrive. * Side * I'd be trying to get involved with Miami and Houston to get Tua. It admits we should of just drafted him but it wasn't really this staffs mistake. Edited November 3, 2021 by SimbaWho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionArkie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm also of the opinion of taking the best player available. If it is QB so be it, however I don't like any of the qb's coming out this year in the first round. If Corral was there in the second, I'd probably take him or maybe take him with the Rams first, depending on the WR or D that was there. I'd also be bringing him in as the backup and give Goff one more year. Not that Goff is the guy, but I wouldn't want to send Corral out there with these WR and kill his confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions017 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 If they think a QB is worth the pick, take him. You can never guarantee that you'll be in position to draft a QB next year or that there will be one that you like. I don't think that there will be one worth the pick, so just go by the big board or try to trade down with someone that wants a QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, SimbaWho said: They are so bad. Truly, they are, Lions should just go off there big board. Doesn't even matter position. This teams lacks players, dogs, talent so bad, just draft the best players and collect. This is what I'd do. Idk if a QB is going to be considered really the best player when we select. I'd say go find a QB, Jared Goff experiment is over. He'll imo, likely be cut after June 1st.(Just my thoughts). They'll bring in another placer QB, Again just my thoughts on what they'll(Lions staff) will do. Idk if they're ready to tie themselves to a early QB selection yet. Hard to put a rookie into this situation and expect them to thrive. * Side * I'd be trying to get involved with Miami and Houston to get Tua. It admits we should of just drafted him but it wasn't really this staffs mistake. If the Lions acquire Tua from the Dolphins would that not mean that the Dolphins want to move on from him and therefore, we shouldn't have drafted him in the first place (since his first team is trying to replace him with someone else). Just because they might be able to do that with Watson doesn't exonerate the case - Neither Burrow or Herbert are being talked about as being replaced by a veteran QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I initially did not want to go QB at all in this draft but if we have more games like this past weekend, this staff will be in the hot seat quicker than expected. I think we need something to plan for in the future but I also don't think a QB is worth the top pick or top 3 pick wherever we end up. There are some intriguing options that likely won't be there when we pick with the Rams pick (Corral, Willis) and a few that have a chance to be there (Strong, Pickett, Ridder, Howell) I have a feeling we may end up with back to back picks with the Rams at 32 and us at 33 and I would rather draft a QB at 32 to get the extra year if we are going to draft one. If none of those guys interest our staff, we have to figure out if its Goff or the WRs that are causing the biggest issue and I am leaning towards Goff. This staff can't ride on potential for too long if they continue to hitch their careers to the success of Goff unless they have a surprising turn around. I am still not willing to put all of the blame on Goff but its a big risk to put your career on the line for Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 How they should approach every draft, IMO, best talent available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitroar Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I don't think you take a QB just for the sake of it, so barring a huge rise from someone, I say pass this year for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Karnage84 said: If the Lions acquire Tua from the Dolphins would that not mean that the Dolphins want to move on from him and therefore, we shouldn't have drafted him in the first place (since his first team is trying to replace him with someone else). Just because they might be able to do that with Watson doesn't exonerate the case - Neither Burrow or Herbert are being talked about as being replaced by a veteran QB. If I'm running Miami I'm not trading Tua plus more for Watson but hey... someone in Miami's organization thinks Watson is more than a "veteran QB". imo. Many would place him in that top 10 category before all the allegations. IMO ownership see's Watson as special so they're attempting to go for it. Tua's tale will be told be by the end of the year really. He could play really poorly and I'd change my opinion, but for now he's done alright and I don't think he's the reason they're losing in Miami. Might be wrong, haven't hawked Miami games but outside looking in the defense looks more of an issue than Tua. I think saying the Lions should of drafted Herbert(who clearly was the best pick then) is a stretch only cause if they were taking a QB then, it was almost for sure going to be Tua. So I guess that's why I suggest it's correcting a wrong. Edited November 3, 2021 by SimbaWho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 I don’t see a QB worthy of a high value pick That doesn’t mean the Lions see it the same way. If they draft a QB in this draft I hope it’s a 3rd round or later developmental type. If he enters the draft Will Levis intrigues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenhater Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 To be fair I have not watch a lot of the QBs play this year. But from what I’ve seen I wouldn’t touch one of these guys before the 2nd. Maybe with the last pick in the first but even with both of those picks I think we would be gambling just fill a position and passing on far superior talent that fills a need. From what I’ve seen the only guys I’m interested in are Corral, Howell, and Strong. All three have the look of a classic round 2 or 3 QB and any draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Millenhater said: To be fair I have not watch a lot of the QBs play this year. But from what I’ve seen I wouldn’t touch one of these guys before the 2nd. Maybe with the last pick in the first but even with both of those picks I think we would be gambling just fill a position and passing on far superior talent that fills a need. From what I’ve seen the only guys I’m interested in are Corral, Howell, and Strong. All three have the look of a classic round 2 or 3 QB and any draft. Carson Strong has arm talent but has pretty poor mobility. Also, at least one of his knees isn't in great shape. Sam Howell could be interesting. He looked great when he had talent around him but is struggling with less talent at RB and WR. He has shown better mobility than most folks thought he had though. One guy you left off who the jury is still out on is Malik Williams from Liberty. He has arm talent and mobility. He hasn't shown out vs better teams like Syracuse but he doesn't have the best talent around him either. The question about level of competition is valid with him. I think he fits into the first round but where is still a bit of a mystery. The Senior Bowl will be crucial for his draft stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenhater Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Just Want A Title said: Carson Strong has arm talent but has pretty poor mobility. Also, at least one of his knees isn't in great shape. Sam Howell could be interesting. He looked great when he had talent around him but is struggling with less talent at RB and WR. He has shown better mobility than most folks thought he had though. One guy you left off who the jury is still out on is Malik Williams from Liberty. He has arm talent and mobility. He hasn't shown out vs better teams like Syracuse but he doesn't have the best talent around him either. The question about level of competition is valid with him. I think he fits into the first round but where is still a bit of a mystery. The Senior Bowl will be crucial for his draft stock. I left Willis off intentionally. I’m not a fan. He is toolsy QB for sure. But I don’t think he’s any good. Honestly if you can’t dominate at that level I just don’t see it at the NFL level. I think Howell is my guy and I’m using the term “my guy” pretty loosely here. I don’t really like any of them. I didn’t know that about Strong. I heard he had a knee issue from high school didn’t know it was still an issue or that he had another/more issues with it. I just don’t think we should force it in this draft. I think Goff sucks. Like he truly sucks, but somehow I think he can lead us to 6-7 wins if he has some weapons and the Oline is healthy...and a good defense... all I’m saying is I think next year we should see a better Jared Goff and just hope that the 2023 draft has some QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miblue Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Find a way to draft David bell and aiden Hutchinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miblue Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 my latest mock 6. Aidan Hutchinson EDGE Michigan 30. Daxton Hill S Michigan 33. Nakobe Dean LB Georgia 37. Zion Nelson OT Miami-Fl 65. Isaiah Likely TE Coastal Carolina 71. Ainias Smith WR Texas A&M 98. Kenneth Walker RB Michigan State 143. Dontario Drummond WR Mississippi 176. Phidarian Mathis DT Alabama 180. James Empey OC BYU 218. Micah McFadden LB Indiana 235. Joey Porter Jr. CB Penn State 2023 WAS 2nd 2023 WAS 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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