hrubes20 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 12:27 AM, mse326 said: In fairness how many 10+ year $25+M AAV contracts actually work out? I actually had to check to see: ARod (age 25) - 10/252 deal with Texas - Great deal Arod (age 32) - 10/275 deal with Yanks - Ugly ending with the roid suspensions and decline Lindor (age 27) - 10/341 deal with Mets - Ugly 1st year, but he's only 28 and should bounce back. Tatis Jr (age 22) - 14/340 (not quite $25 AAV but close) deal with Pads - Only 1 year in and he's still a monster Machado (age 26) - 10/300 deal with Pads - Had an iffy debut with Pads; was outstanding in the fake 2020 covid year; and was really good but not outstanding this past year. Need to see more of this one. Betts (age 28) - 12/365 deal with Dodgers - Only 1 year in and he played fine, despite some injuries this year Harper (age 26) - 13/330 deal with Phils - Worth 11.1 fWAR in the 2 non-covid seasons. This one is playing out fine Trout (age 29) - 10/360 deal with Angels - Was on a 9+fWAR pace before his season ended with injury. Only year 1 in the deal, and I suppose the injury could derail him Stanton (age 27) - 13/327 deal with Marlins - He's been hurt a bunch and that likely isn't to get better as time goes on. Not quite in the "loss" category, but not far from it. Cano (age 31) - 10/228 (again, close but not quite $25 AAV) deal with M's - 7 years in and this one looks bad. Roids and injuries have taken their toll. Votto (age 30) - 10/225 (close) deal with Reds - Votto just keeps hitting. This deal looks completely fine. Pujols (age 32) - 10/240 (close) deal with Angels - A trainwreck from the beginning. Hasn't been a positive fWAR player since 2016. Cole (age 30) - 9/324 (close) deal with Yanks - Good debut, although he was dramatically affected by the sticky stuff ban I think that is it for deals 9 or 10 years in length, with an AAV close to or above $25 million. The ones that are for sure losses were big deals given to guys 30+ in ARod's 2nd deal, Cano and Pujols. Stanton's deal is dang close, though and I wouldn't quibble with you if you wanted to count that one a "loss" already. The for sure wins were the first deal given to ARod as a 25 year old and a 30 year old Votto. The rest are just too recent to analyze yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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