NYRaider Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: If we draft a downgrade which odds suggest will happen this will be a 2 or 3 win team for the next 5 years. You guys complain about Carr but imagine if we cut bait and draft a Haskins, Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield etc. You guys will be wishing we had Carr back. Derek Carr literally has lost more games in his first 8 seasons then any QB in NFL history, it can't get any worse, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Didn't fields beat us BTW? eesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: You do realize that if a new GM gets hired, moves on from Carr and drafts a "Haskins bum" as his replacement he will be fired. Do you think any GM would be foolish enough to do such a stupid thing? You only move on from Carr if you have an upgrade in place. Football 101.... If he drafts haskins he should be fired any way. So what's your point. If he drafting haskins why would I be confident that he going to build a roster that carr can win with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: If we draft a downgrade which odds suggest will happen this will be a 2 or 3 win team for the next 5 years. You guys complain about Carr but imagine if we cut bait and draft a Haskins, Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield etc. You guys will be wishing we had Carr back. What if we draft the next Josh Allen? Or Mahomes? Or Jackson? Or Watson (sans legal issues)? Or Herbert? Jury is obviously still out on this most recent draft, but I’d probably rather have Mac Jones Hell, Mayfield already has more career playoff wins than Carr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Here’s where I’m at on Carr. I don’t think he will pull it together enough for us to make the playoffs. The offensive coaches are trash anyways let’s be honest. Bring in a new coach and roll with what they want to do. If they want to trade him, fine. If they want to roll with him, fine but you better play to his strengths and run a passing offense. I’d prefer to try and make a big trade for a veteran qb like Wilson or Rodgers, but I don’t know how it’s feasible. If Mayock isn’t on board, or mark thinks he made a lot of these bad picks, fire him too. Bring in a young analytics GM, reload the team and cut bait with Ferrell and Abram. Bring in a new right tackle. Sign a good WR like Allen Robinson. The pass defense is good. The run defense can be fixed by adding a good DT and drafting another LB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, TLO said: What if we draft the next Josh Allen? Or Mahomes? Or Jackson? Or Watson (sans legal issues)? Or Herbert? Jury is obviously still out on this most recent draft, but I’d probably rather have Mac Jones Hell, Mayfield already has more career playoff wins than Carr. Mayfield is terrible, but I appreciate your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, dante9876 said: If he drafts haskins he should be fired any way. So what's your point. If he drafting haskins why would I be confident that he going to build a roster that carr can win with. Once again, go back to 2010 and list all of the 1st round QB's. I did it a year ago and the list is an embarrassment. If you're a GM new to this franchise and look at that list/odds of drafting a downgrade and decide to take that risk you better be 100 percent certain you're getting an upgrade or else you career as a GM is over. No GM would ever do such a thing. Football 101 and you clowns cant grasp this concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Mayfield is terrible, but I appreciate your point. I’m no Mayfield fan, and think Carr is better, but it drives home my point that we don’t need to be worry about the downside of moving on from a QB who has gone nearly a decade without a playoff win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Mayfield is terrible, but I appreciate your point. Mayfield is a flat out bum LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Once again, go back to 2010 and list all of the 1st round QB's. I did it a year ago and the list is an embarrassment. If you're a GM new to this franchise and look at that list/odds of drafting a downgrade and decide to take that risk you better be 100 percent certain you're getting an upgrade or else you career as a GM is over. No GM would ever do such a thing. Football 101 and you clowns cant grasp this concept. Or nobody is itching to pay a guy $30mm/year when he’s proven time and time again that he can’t get it done when it matters most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, TLO said: Or nobody is itching to pay a guy $30mm/year when he’s proven time and time again that he can’t get it done when it matters most The fact that you don't think football is a team game and W/L's are all on a QB is all I need to know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Once again, go back to 2010 and list all of the 1st round QB's. I did it a year ago and the list is an embarrassment. If you're a GM new to this franchise and look at that list/odds of drafting a downgrade and decide to take that risk you better be 100 percent certain you're getting an upgrade or else you career as a GM is over. No GM would ever do such a thing. Football 101 and you clowns cant grasp this concept. All that clowns crap need to stop. I aint call you one name. No matter how idiotic fan boy loving Carr I think you are being. Carr is about to be on his 3rd gm if he stays. So kinda looks like you got a great chance of getting fired if you keep him to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, dante9876 said: All that clowns crap need to stop. I aint call you one name. No matter how idiotic fan boy loving Carr I think you are being. Carr is about to be on his 3rd gm if he stays. So kinda looks like you got a great chance of getting fired if you keep him to. It's basic football knowledge, it's not a hard concept to grasp. I get fans are pissed off and rightfully so but blaming Carr for this the state of this franchise is both baseless and foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Lions moved on from stafford. And now they suck amd lack talent. But they not spending their wheels and can try to rebuild their team. Carr in the same position. Move on. He can take his fans with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I legit thought carr was going to get boo’d out of Vegas today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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