TheKillerNacho Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Friend with the subscription sent me the updated numbers so I'm sending them to you. A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, this should be interesting. Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format. Also keep in mind that players who do not have a certain Snap % are not included (not sure what exactly the minimum snap count is... I think its like 25%). Quarterback Top 5: 1. Tom Brady 92.5 2. Russell Wilson 90.0 3. Drew Brees 86.7 4. Alex Smith 86.0 5. Aaron Rodgers 84.9 Bottom 5: 1. DeShone Kizer 45.3 2. C.J. Beathard 47.4 3. Trevor Siemian 54.3 4. Mitchell Trubisky 68.5 5. Jay Cutler 68.8 Runningback Top 5: 1. Kareem Hunt 91.4 2. Devonta Freeman 90.3 3. Aaron Jones 86.7 4. Ezekiel Elliot 85.8 5. Dion Lewis 82.9 Bottom 5: 1. Isaiah Crowell 43.6 2. Carlos Hyde 44.0 3. Javorius Allen 44.7 4. Doug Martin 46.5 5. Mark Ingram 48.4Fullback Top 5: 1. Anthony Sherman 78.9 2. Patrick DiMarco 78.0 3. Kyle Juszczyk 74.3 4. Jamize Olawale 73.7 5. James Develin 72.8 Bottom 5: 1a. Aaron Ripkowski 39.9 1b. Roosevelt Nix 39.9 3. Derek Watt 40.8 4. Keith Smith 40.9 5. Derrick Coleman 43.3Wide receiver Top 5: 1. Antonio Brown 92.1 2. Julio Jones 87.8 3. DeAndre Hopkins 87.3 4. A.J. Green 86.0 5. Doug Baldwin 85.6 Bottom 5: 1. Kenny Britt 38.1 2. Breshad Perriman 38.3 3. Zay Jones 40.2 4. Curtis Samuel 41.4 5. Terrelle Pryor Sr. 41.7 Tight end Top 5: 1. Travis Kelce 89.1 2a. Rob Gronkowski 84.8 2b. Cameron Brate 84.8 4. Hunter Henry 83.3 5. Delanie Walker 83.2 Bottom 5: 1. Demetrius Harris 38.6 2. George Kittle 40.0 3. Dwayne Allen 41.5 4. Troy Niklas 42.8 5. Anthony Fasano 43.2 Offensive tackle Top 5: 1. Demar Dotson 87.2 2a. Joe Thomas 86.4 2b. Jason Peters 86.4 4. David Bakhtiari 86.3 5. Lane Johnson 84.4 Bottom 5: 1. Rees Odhiambo 27.2 2. Le'Raven Clark 34.6 3. Breno Giacomini 36.1 4. Greg Robinson 36.6 5. John Wetzel 37.0Offensive guard Top 5: 1. David DeCastro 91.2 2. Zack Martin 90.6 3. Shaq Mason 85.2 4. Brandon Scherff 84.9 5. Joel Bitonio 84.0 Bottom 5: 1. Mark Glowinski 31.8 2. Jeff Allen 32.5 3. Alex Boone 33.7 4. Earl Watford 34.4 5. Isaac Seumalo 34.7Center Top 5: 1. Alex Mack 86.9 2. Jason Kelce 86.7 3. David Andrews 85.3 4. Ryan Jensen 84.0 5. Travis Frederick 83.9 Bottom 5: 1. Wesley Johnson 36.0 2. Travis Swanson 36.2 3. Ryan Kelly 38.3 4. Max Unger 39.4 5. Pat Elfein 41.4Cornerback Top 5: 1. Marshon Lattimore 94.5 2. Jason McCourty 92.0 3. Jalen Ramsey 91.7 4. Patrick Robinson 89.9 5. Aqib Talib 89.1 Bottom 5: 1. Kevin Johnson 31.3 2. Phillip Gaines 33.3 3. K'Waun Williams 37.6 4. Xavien Howard 37.9 5. Kevin King 39.1Safety Top 5: 1. Harrison Smith 93.7 2. Adrian Amos 92.0 3. Glover Quin 91.5 4. Tyvon Branch 89.1 5. Micah Hyde 88.7 Bottom 5: 1. Jabrill Peppers 37.2 2. Daniel Sorensen 38.1 3. Kenny Vaccaro 39.3 4. Kentrell Brice 40.0 5. Nate Allen 40.2Linebacker Top 5: 1. Bobby Wagner 94.8 2. Lavonte David 94.4 3. Telvin Smith 90.9 4. Luke Kuechly 89.4 5. Ryan Shazier 88.5 Bottom 5: 1. Hayes Pullard 32.5 2. Jamie Collins 33.2 3. Antonio Morrison 35.9 4. Deone Bucannon 36.6 5. Alec Ogletree 36.8"Interior Defender" Top 5: 1. Aaron Donald 95.3 2. Ndamukong Suh 91.4 3. Damon Harrison 90.9 4. Geno Atkins 90.3 5a. Linval Joseph 90.0 5b. DeForest Buckner 90.0 Bottom 5: 1. Ziggy Hood 39.5 2. Brandon Mebane 39.6 3. Adolphus Washington 42.0 4a. Josh Mauro 44.4 4b. Terrell McClain 44.4 "Edge Defender" Top 5: 1. Cameron Jordan 91.9 2. Von Miller 91.7 3. Melvin Ingram 91.4 4. Brandon Graham 91.3 5. Calais Campbell 90.5 6. Khalil Mack 90.0 Bottom 5: 1. Charles Johnson 41.9 2. Connor Barwin 42.5 3. Cassius Marsh 43.2 4. Cliff Avril 44.1 5. Anthony Chickillo 44.7 Let the PFF smashing begin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cameron Brate is as good as Gronk. Confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hunter Henry and Delanie Walker over Zach Ertz? lol ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, Danger said: Hunter Henry and Delanie Walker over Zach Ertz? lol ok Zach Ertz blocking probably prevents him from being graded in the top5 There's a worse corner that Phillip Gaines? Poor Texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Saints have two defenders in the top of their positional rankings. I’ll take it. Haven’t watched enough football this year to say Cam or Lattimore are the BEST at their position, but they’re both clearly playing at an elite level right now. And Kenny Vaccaro bottom 5 is a laugher... he’s had a great season, he’s gonna get PAID this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Adolphus Washington in bottom 5??? None of the Bills interior dlinemen deserve to be there. None have played great but none have been bad. They have all been well coached, stout, and overall solid. Smith not in top 2? Ertz not in top 5? One of the worst PFF grades I've ever saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, domepatrol91 said: Saints have two defenders in the top of their positional rankings. I’ll take it. Haven’t watched enough football this year to say Cam or Lattimore are the BEST at their position, but they’re both clearly playing at an elite level right now. And Kenny Vaccaro bottom 5 is a laugher... he’s had a great season, he’s gonna get PAID this year. He’s really caught my eye the last couple of weeks, has he played this well all year? I’d be interested to see his grade week by week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Looks completely fair to me. Team PFF. Gets a bad rep, but I trust a collection of paid analysts, ex-NFL coaches, ex-NFL players over John Doe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.10.E Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Needs more Jimmy Smith. Overall, not a bad list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 It blows my mind to not see any Bengals offensive linemen on the bad side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Rider Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 After an abysmal start I am surprised I didn't see any patriots player on the bottom of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, fluhartz said: It blows my mind to not see any Bengals offensive linemen on the bad side of things. Because as a unit, they're terrible, but that doesn't necessarily mean each individual has been one of the worst at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I'm very pleasantly surprised by both Adrian Amos and Eddie Jackson, for the first time in a decade I feel like the Bears S are not an overall weakness. I don't know that Amos is the second best safety in the NFL, but he's certainly been on a hot streak since getting benched for Demps and then coming in to replace him due to injury. Lit a fire under him or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 For those wondering why Watson isn't there, he's about midway. He's 3rd in big-time plays, but he's also 5th highest for turnover-worthy plays. So, evens out a bit. He's also suffering from a very poor week 1 grade but he's climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 21 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Because as a unit, they're terrible, but that doesn't necessarily mean each individual has been one of the worst at the position. no.. they are also terrible individually... Russell Bodine has to be the worst center in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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