Danger Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: This article/thread pretty well captures where I am at with Hurts. The floor is higher than I think I thought in the offseason. The question is: what is the ceiling? Haven't read the article yet; Conversely, I'm of the opposite state of mind, I feel that the ceiling has proven to be fairly low comparatively speaking and that's why I'm really not as high on him as you or others might be. I guess you could say he's.... middled out this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It's charts like this that really aren't inspiring to me: Yeah he ran the ball well, but as a passer, he's... fairly easy to counter. I feel like it's only a matter of time until defenses basically make him ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danger said: It's charts like this that really aren't inspiring to me: Yeah he ran the ball well, but as a passer, he's... fairly easy to counter. I feel like it's only a matter of time until defenses basically make him ineffective. I never saw the game but am curious. Is that the side where DeVonta/Goedert usually lines up, Reagor, JJAW ect opposite or is Smith/DG all over the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said: I never saw the game but am curious. Is that the side where DeVonta/Goedert usually lines up, Reagor, JJAW ect opposite or is Smith/DG all over the place? I haven't paid attention to this too much, but I am pretty sure some of those passes that he missed on the left were to Devonta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I got what I wanted from this season already: wanting to give Hurts 2022 to further evaluate him. Factoring into this are his promising play this season and not wasting valuable draft picks on an aging vet or an unworthy draft prospect. Also, the performances of said unworthy draft prospects is a major factor in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It’s nice that the offense has looked good the last couple weeks. But I’ve seen more bad weeks than good. Just because it’s the most recent doesn’t make it the most true. Teams will counter and it will be up to Hurts to exploit their measures. That’s the next and ultimate test; does he have the skills to recognize the defenses’ counters and can he beat them? I was pleasantly surprised last week. I figured the Saints would shut our run game down and Davis would have his way with everyone in his territory, that dudes a beast. But they didn’t. But someone will and Hurts will have to find a way. I’ll eat some crow and give Hurts a chance to execute what I laid out. But I still haven’t seen what I need to see to have the confidence that he’s got what it takes to lead a franchise successfully. Willing to wait it out and prove me wrong or right in my assumptions though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jroc04 said: It’s nice that the offense has looked good the last couple weeks. But I’ve seen more bad weeks than good. Just because it’s the most recent doesn’t make it the most true. Teams will counter and it will be up to Hurts to exploit their measures. That’s the next and ultimate test; does he have the skills to recognize the defenses’ counters and can he beat them? I was pleasantly surprised last week. I figured the Saints would shut our run game down and Davis would have his way with everyone in his territory, that dudes a beast. But they didn’t. But someone will and Hurts will have to find a way. I’ll eat some crow and give Hurts a chance to execute what I laid out. But I still haven’t seen what I need to see to have the confidence that he’s got what it takes to lead a franchise successfully. Willing to wait it out and prove me wrong or right in my assumptions though. the one thing that gives me a sliver of hope with hurts is compared to how AWFUL his anticipation was the first 7 weeks, he has been getting a little better every week on getting the ball out as the receiver breaks on their route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 So is Mailata a top LT in the NFL now? Starting to feel that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: So is Mailata a top LT in the NFL now? Starting to feel that way PFF has him graded at 79.3 this season, which is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ninjapirate said: So is Mailata a top LT in the NFL now? Starting to feel that way Wouldn't go that far but it appears we have finally filled Jason Peters void, so....I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Wouldn't go that far but it appears we have finally filled Jason Peters void, so....I'll take it. what do you mean finally lol. jp left and mailata immediately became a worthy starter within a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Daimonas said: what do you mean finally lol. jp left and mailata immediately became a worthy starter within a season JP has been a shell of himself since 2019. Constantly getting injured and needing to be replaced by a backup. We wasted a 1st rd pick apparently on Dillard, had to resign a Broken Peters last year. LT has been a liability for the past 3 years really, until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugzBunny101 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 This game feels trappy - we're getting lot of positive media attention and coming in fly high. It's the total opposite for the Giants, perfect recipe for an upset. I'd take Hurts over danny dingbat any day tho so I think we somehow squeak out a win. Go Birds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: JP has been a shell of himself since 2019. Constantly getting injured and needing to be replaced by a backup. We wasted a 1st rd pick apparently on Dillard, had to resign a Broken Peters last year. LT has been a liability for the past 3 years really, until now. Mailata working out like he has is almost as crazy as us winning a SB with Nick Foles at QB and Vaitai at LT against Tom Brady in a game where Tom Brady threw for over 500 yards and 3 tuds. And all credit goes to Stout, who told Howie to take him. Stout for GM. Edited November 25, 2021 by Jeezla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The Giants are 30th in rush defense DVOA which means they'll hold us to 40 rushing yards on 30 attempts. Just another example of nothing making sense in the NFL and it being a week to week league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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