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5 hours ago, Pastor Dillon said:

We picked up Kingsley Keke on waivers today. This could be a really good get for us. Keke can play, don’t know what the packers were thinking. 

I saw some reports that said he had a fight with the coaching staff so that’s why they waived him. 
 

I like this pickup a lot. He’s good depth and could be in line to get plenty of snaps if Collins isn’t resigned.

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23 hours ago, Marco79 said:

I saw some reports that said he had a fight with the coaching staff so that’s why they waived him. 
 

I like this pickup a lot. He’s good depth and could be in line to get plenty of snaps if Collins isn’t resigned.

What's interesting is this quote from rotoworld from when he was drafted: 

"Keke offers Malik Jackson-level upside as an interior sub-rusher. It's not a stretch to say he'll compete from Day One on the Packers' interior defensive line."

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So I think we go 1 of 2 ways, depending on head coach hire: (1) quick rebuild & competitive (Flores) or (2) extended rebuild / slow & steady (Mayo, Gannon, O'Connel) I am refusing to accept most other HC options in order to keep my sanity.

Say it is Flores... what could a quick rebuild look like?

(1) coaches

Flores makes Pep OC; hires Mayo as DC; retain Campen as OL; keep Ross as ST coordinator

runs heavy play action, wide zone offensive scheme (emphasize agile OL) + hybrid front defensive scheme

(2) trades

- Watson to NYG to be coached by Daboll (yeah, I said it) for 2022 1st (#5) + 2022 (2nd) + 2022 3rd (MIA) + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + edge Elerson Smith

- edge Jordan Jenkins to IND for edge Ben Banogu

- CB / S Lonnie Johnson + 2022 3rd to MIA for CB Xavien Howard

- swap 2022 6th to DET for TE Brock Wright (DET) + 2022 7th

(3) cuts

- SS Eric Murray frees up $5.5

T Marcus Cannon frees up $5.2M

cap space at about $40M

(4) free agents (listed non-minimum deals)

- sign QB Andy Dalton (CHI) (2 years, $8M) 4

re-sign WR Chris Conley (HOU) (1 year, $3M)  3

- sign G/C James Daniels (CHI) (4 years, $32M) 8

- sign G/C Scott Quessenberry (LAC) (3 years, $9M) 3

- sign NT Vernon Butler (BUF) (2 years, $4M) 2

- sign DE Sebastian Joseph-Day (LAR) (3 years, $6M) 2

- re-sign LB Kamu Grangier-Hill (HOU) (3 years, $15M) 5

- sign LB Jamie Collins (NEP) (1 year, $3M) 3

- re-sign edge Chris Smith (HOU) (1 year, $1M) 1

- re-sign CB Desmond King (HOU) (3 years, $15M) 5

- transition tag S Justin Reid (HOU) $11.2M

Draft

1-3 S Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame

1-5 CB Ahmad Gardner, Cincinnati

2 (HOU) RB Isaiah Spiller, TAMU

2 (NYG) TE Jalen Wydermyer, TAMU

3 LB Chad Muma, Wyoming

6 QB Baily Zeppe, W. Kentucky

 

Roster

QB Mills, Dalton, Zeppe

RB Spiller, Burkhead, Phillips, Jackson

WR Collins, Cooks, Conley, Dorsett, Camp, Moore

TE Wydermyer, Jordan, Wright, P. Quessenberry

T Tunsil, Howard, Heck

IOL Daniels, S. Quessenbery, Scharping, McCray, Morrissey

 

DL Blacklock, Joseph-Day, Butler (NT), Lopez (NT), Keke

Edge E. Smith, C. Smith, Banogu, Greenard

ILB Grugier-Hill, Collins, Muma, Pierre-Louis, Gallow

CB Howard, Gardner, King, Mitchell, T. Smith, Moreland, Thomas

SAF Hamilton, Reid, Owens, T.J. Green, 

K Fairbairn // P Johnston // LS Weeks

 

Season

W (11) - IND, JAX(2X), TN, PHI (finally!), WFT, CLE, DEN, NYG, CHI, MIA

L (6) - TN, IND, KC, LV, LAC, DAL :( 

Make it to 2nd round of playoffs, but built for future success.

 

It gives me hope :)

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, jch1911 said:

So I think we go 1 of 2 ways, depending on head coach hire: (1) quick rebuild & competitive (Flores) or (2) extended rebuild / slow & steady (Mayo, Gannon, O'Connel) I am refusing to accept most other HC options in order to keep my sanity.

Say it is Flores... what could a quick rebuild look like?

(1) coaches

Flores makes Pep OC; hires Mayo as DC; retain Campen as OL; keep Ross as ST coordinator

runs heavy play action, wide zone offensive scheme (emphasize agile OL) + hybrid front defensive scheme

(2) trades

- Watson to NYG to be coached by Daboll (yeah, I said it) for 2022 1st (#5) + 2022 (2nd) + 2022 3rd (MIA) + 2023 1st + 2024 1st + edge Elerson Smith

- edge Jordan Jenkins to IND for edge Ben Banogu

- CB / S Lonnie Johnson + 2022 3rd to MIA for CB Xavien Howard

- swap 2022 6th to DET for TE Brock Wright (DET) + 2022 7th

(3) cuts

- SS Eric Murray frees up $5.5

T Marcus Cannon frees up $5.2M

cap space at about $40M

(4) free agents (listed non-minimum deals)

- sign QB Andy Dalton (CHI) (2 years, $8M) 4

re-sign WR Chris Conley (HOU) (1 year, $3M)  3

- sign G/C James Daniels (CHI) (4 years, $32M) 8

- sign G/C Scott Quessenberry (LAC) (3 years, $9M) 3

- sign NT Vernon Butler (BUF) (2 years, $4M) 2

- sign DE Sebastian Joseph-Day (LAR) (3 years, $6M) 2

- re-sign LB Kamu Grangier-Hill (HOU) (3 years, $15M) 5

- sign LB Jamie Collins (NEP) (1 year, $3M) 3

- re-sign edge Chris Smith (HOU) (1 year, $1M) 1

- re-sign CB Desmond King (HOU) (3 years, $15M) 5

- transition tag S Justin Reid (HOU) $11.2M

Draft

1-3 S Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame

1-5 CB Ahmad Gardner, Cincinnati

2 (HOU) RB Isaiah Spiller, TAMU

2 (NYG) TE Jalen Wydermyer, TAMU

3 LB Chad Muma, Wyoming

6 QB Baily Zeppe, W. Kentucky

 

Roster

QB Mills, Dalton, Zeppe

RB Spiller, Burkhead, Phillips, Jackson

WR Collins, Cooks, Conley, Dorsett, Camp, Moore

TE Wydermyer, Jordan, Wright, P. Quessenberry

T Tunsil, Howard, Heck

IOL Daniels, S. Quessenbery, Scharping, McCray, Morrissey

 

DL Blacklock, Joseph-Day, Butler (NT), Lopez (NT), Keke

Edge E. Smith, C. Smith, Banogu, Greenard

ILB Grugier-Hill, Collins, Muma, Pierre-Louis, Gallow

CB Howard, Gardner, King, Mitchell, T. Smith, Moreland, Thomas

SAF Hamilton, Reid, Owens, T.J. Green, 

K Fairbairn // P Johnston // LS Weeks

 

Season

W (11) - IND, JAX(2X), TN, PHI (finally!), WFT, CLE, DEN, NYG, CHI, MIA

L (6) - TN, IND, KC, LV, LAC, DAL :( 

Make it to 2nd round of playoffs, but built for future success.

 

It gives me hope :)

 

 

 

I really like what you did here, thought I'd probably make a few changes..

If we end up with two top 5 picks, I'd like us to  trade down from one of those spots. 

Also, if we're going to draft Bailey Zappe (who will likely be drafted well before the 6th round IMO), I think Andy Dalton is unnecessary. If we're going to bench Mills due to bad performance, I'd like his replacement to represent some semblance of hope, and to be someone who could potentially grow into a starting caliber guy, like Mills. I think Mills' backup should be another guy like Mills. 

Also I think it'll be important for us to retain Maliek Collins. Also, I'd prefer to keep Lovie rather than switch to Jerod Mayo. 

But I like the draft picks, and bringing back KG, picking up Jamie Collins.. I'd be excited about next season if the offseason went this way for sure

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  • 4 weeks later...

Post SB & Lovie Hire 2022 Off-Season

Trades (pre draft) $51.7M in cap room

Trade QB Deshuan Watson to PHI  for 2 2022 1sts (19, 15) + conditional 2023 2nd (can become 1st) + 2024 3rd + DL Milton Williams

Trade T Laremy Tunsil to CIN for 1-31 + Edge Joseph Ossai

 

Free Agency

Pickup

IOL James Daniels (CHI) (5 years, $45M) 9

TE Mo Allie-Cox (IND) (3 years, $18M) 6

IDL Bilal Nichols (CHI) (3 years, $12.3M) 4.1

LB Zaire Franklin (IND) (3 years, $12M) 4

QB Andy Dalton (CHI) (2 years, $4M) 2  

RB Justin Jackson (LAC) (2 years, $4M) 2  

LB Oren Burks (GB) (2 years, $4M) 2  

S Dane Cruikshank (TN) (2 years, $3M) 1.5

QB Cardale Jones (SFA) (2 years, vet. min.)

 

Net 2023 4th round compensatory pick

 

Keep

LB Kamu Grugier-Hill (3 years, $12M) 4

CB Desmond King (3 years, $15M) 5

WR Chris Conley (2 years, $6M) 3

 

Lose

S Justin Reid (4 years, $48M) 12

IDL Maliek Collins  (4 years, $36M) 9

Edge Jacob Martin (4 years, $28M) 7

T Geron Christian (4 years, $24M) 6

LB Christian Kirksey (2 years, $10M) 5

TE Pharoah Brown (2 years, $8M) 4

C Justin Britt (2 years, $7M) 3.5

TE Jordan Akins (2 years, $7M) 3.5

RB David Johnson (2 years, $6M) 3

S A.J. Moore (3 years, $9M) 3

S Terrence Brooks (2 years, $6M) 3

LB Neville Hewitt (2 years, $6M) 3

Edge D. Walker (2 years, $4M) 2

WR Chris Moore (2 years, $4M) 2

 

Draft

1-3 S Kyle Hamilton (Notre Dame)

1-15 CB Trent McDuffie (Washington)

1-19 WR Jahan Dotson (Penn State)

Trade 1-31 + 6-187+ 6-188 to CLE for 2-44 + 3-78

2-37 IOL Zion Johnson (Boston College)

2-44 RB Breece Hall (Iowa State)

3-68 TE Jalen Wydermyer (TAMU)

3-78 LB Chad Muma (Wyoming)

3-80 Edge Boye Mafe

Trade 4-127 to BUF for T Tommy Doyle + 5-153

5-153 trade for 2023 4th round pick

6-164 K Cameron Dicker (TX)

Trade K Ka’imi Fairbairn to DET for 2023 6th + TE Brock Wright

 

Post Draft Cut (or trade)

T Marcus Cannon

S Eric Murray

Edge Jordan Jenkins

 

2023 Roster

QB Mills, Dalton, Jones

RB Hall, J. Jackson, Burkhead, D. Jackson

X-WR Cooks, Collins

Y-WR Conley, Camp

Slot WR Dorsett, Dotson

F-TE Allie-Cox, Wydermyer

Move TE Jordan, Wright (FB)

T Howard, Doyle, Heck

IOL Daniels, Z. Johnson, Scharping, McCray, Morrissey

 

Edge Greenard, Ossai, Mafe, Rivers

IDL Blacklock, Lopez, Nichols, Williams, Keke

OLB Mamu, Franklin, Pierre-Louis, Wallow

ILB Grugier-Hill, Burks

S Hamilton, L. Johnson, Owens, Cruikshank

CB McDuffie, Mitchell, Smith, Moreland

Slot CB King, Thomas

K Dicker, P Johnston, LS Weeks (or UDFA)

 

4-3 alignment

Rush: Greenard, Ossai

IDL: Lopez/Blacklock, Williams

SLB: Mamu

MLB: Grugier-Hill

WLB: Franklin

 

3-4 alignment

DE: Nichols, Keke

NT: Blacklock / Lopez

OLB: Ossai, Mafe

ILB: Grugier-Hill, Mamu

 

That’s a solid core for the next 2 years. 

2023 - Sign or draft CB + SAF + G/C

 

2022-2023 W-L (7-10) 3rd place AFCSouf

Win: IND + JAX + NYG + CHI + CLE + MIA + DEN

Loss: IND + JAX + TN (2x) barf + WSH + DAL + KC + LAC + PHI  + LV

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1 hour ago, Pastor Dillon said:

Of we trade Watson and Tunsil and don’t sign anyone beyond a 1 year deal this summer, we have a full reset next off season with only guys on rookie deals and another top 5 pick. That might be the way to go. 

Is Cooks on his last year?

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3 hours ago, lumberjackchris said:

What do those mean? We still have a cap hit, but hes a FA? Or do we get to opt into each year at a time? 

My understanding is if the player re-signs that the $$$ could be applied to a newly negotiated contract.

If the player leaves, those hits remain on the team's salary cap

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/brandin-cooks-14429/

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22 minutes ago, jch1911 said:

My understanding is if the player re-signs that the $$$ could be applied to a newly negotiated contract.

If the player leaves, those hits remain on the team's salary cap

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/brandin-cooks-14429/

10-4! 

 

Figured it was something along those lines. I'd be happy signing him to like a 3-4 year extension for like 40 mil 

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