Week 12 General Discussion Thread

[y*so*blu]

Hell of an effort by Thielen, but it really should not have been that hard. He was wide open and Cousins had time.

[SBLIII]

Cousins has missed too many easy throws.

[Bolts223]

Why is Tom Tolesco's job security not being questioned at all? He's been here for close to a decade and has nothing to show for it.

Here are some statistics about the Chargers during Tolesco's tenure (2013-Present)

• We are 66-73 (.475 win %)
• We've picked in the top 10 more times than we've made the playoffs. (3 times vs 2 times)
• We've won 10+ games exactly once. We've lost 10+ games 3 times.
• We've consistently had awful ST play under him. A few injuries seemingly makes us crumble in any given year. This is symptomatic of the fact that Tolesco is not good at drafting in later rounds and does a poor job at finding quality depth.
• He's made 2 awful coaching hires (McCoy and Lynn). Both of them have failed miserably everywhere they've gone after leaving the team.

 

If Herbert ends up being his legacy that's not the worst thing in the world. But over a 9 year tenure he has given me zero reason to believe that he is the one who can actually build a SB caliber team. He's unaggressive to a fault. He doesn't draft particularly well unless it's with a pick inside the top 20. He's terrible at drafting O-lineman unless an elite prospect falls into his lap like Slater did. And despite the fact that we've spent 5 round 1-3 picks on the front 7 since 2018 they continue to be really bad week to week.

 

So why is it that his job security is never questioned? He's literally accomplished nothing. He's had above average QB play for most of his tenure with the organization, yet the Chargers have been a below average franchise in that span.

[biggie.]

Buckman are such an awful combination. I know a lot of people hate Collinsworth, but he has Michaels carrying him.

Buck and Aikman are insufferable dolts.

[kingseanjohn]

Terrible play by Kupp. If you're going to let it go, you have to block that guy.

[Malfatron]

Ok, now force the rams to make a longer drive for our td now

[Matts4313]

Oh Kupp, you dumb dumb

[ThatJaxxenGuy]

What Kupp just did won’t show up on the stat sheet, but that was losing football 

[SkippyX]

I like to pile on Stafford. Its a fun time for all.

To be fair he is also #8 all-time in comebacks and GWDs. He had 8 in 2016 on a 9-win Lions team.

 

Lots of giveth and taketh away going on from #9

[biggie.]

Holy ****.

Belichick would immediately bench Kupp's *** for that.

Edited November 29, 2021 by biggie.

[Matts4313]

Just now, ThatJaxxenGuy said:

What Kupp just did won’t show up on the stat sheet, but that was losing football 

Spot on. 

[Jameson_Neat]

I could easily see another pic 6.

Can't remember if Stafford has done it before.

[Flounch]

Just now, SkippyX said:

I like to pile on Stafford. Its a fun time for all.

To be fair he is also #8 all-time in comebacks and GWDs. He had 8 in 2016 on a 9-win Lions team.

 

Lots of giveth and taketh away going on from #9

Comeback from how many points ?

[NoFlyZone]

Rams are very committed to beating themselves.

[sryan66611]

1 minute ago, Bolts223 said:

Why is Tom Tolesco's job security not being questioned at all? He's been here for close to a decade and has nothing to show for it.

Here are some statistics about the Chargers during Tolesco's tenure (2013-Present)

• We are 66-73 (.475 win %)
• We've picked in the top 10 more times than we've made the playoffs. (3 times vs 2 times)
• We've won 10+ games exactly once. We've lost 10+ games 3 times.
• We've consistently had awful ST play under him. A few injuries seemingly makes us crumble in any given year. This is symptomatic of the fact that Tolesco is not good at drafting in later rounds and does a poor job at finding quality depth.
• He's made 2 awful coaching hires (McCoy and Lynn). Both of them have failed miserably everywhere they've gone after leaving the team.

 

If Herbert ends up being his legacy that's not the worst thing in the world. But over a 9 year tenure he has given me zero reason to believe that he is the one who can actually build a SB caliber team. He's unaggressive to a fault. He doesn't draft particularly well unless it's with a pick inside the top 20. He's terrible at drafting O-lineman unless an elite prospect falls into his lap like Slater did. And despite the fact that we've spent 5 round 1-3 picks on the front 7 since 2018 they continue to be really bad week to week.

 

So why is it that his job security is never questioned? He's literally accomplished nothing. He's had above average QB play for most of his tenure with the organization, yet the Chargers have been a below average franchise in that span.

I don't pay attention much but he has had some pretty solid drafts IMO.