buno67 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Iamcanadian said: I agree, drafting is really tough and you need a really skilled assessor of talent, to get the job done correctly. There is a solid reason why some teams remain competitive for years while others remain bottom feeders for decades and it can be found in 3 places. First, you need an owner who can assess FO talent and hires a talented one, then you need a talented FO that can assess prospects, FA's, HC's and scouts and drafts, signs or hires talented ones. Then you need a HC who can assess talent on hand and get rid of the junk on their rosters and help the GM to spot talented players to draft or sign as FA's. Unless, these 3 situations exist on a team, there is little hope they will ever be a consistent contender and are far more likely to be bottom feeders for years to come if not decades. However, just to set the facts straight, Aaron Curry came out of one of the worst draft classes in the history of the draft, he was far from a sure thing, but teams really had few options in the early picks. They basically all stunk. Yes, he was considered a safe pick for a talentless draft, but in the end, it turned out to be exactly that, a talentless draft. As for Weedon, he simply did not tick off all the boxes, which is why he fell to late round 1. QB's drafted where Weedon went, only have around a 6% chance for success, so clearly, a lot of boxes were not ticked on his chart. It was simply a desperate gamble that failed terribly. Weeded was drafted 22nd because of age. If he was coming out at 21 or 22 he goes top10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 F5 button on Allbright's twitter feed getting a workout this morning, waiting for this email to drop. Have to remember he's 2 hours behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Facts, there is no one that would have turned down physical freaks that dominated the game like Courtney Brown or Vernon Gholston. There was nothing in their medicals or interviews that would have suggested these guys would have been busts. Which is exactly the driver behind the moneyball approach. There are essentially two ways to improve your roster (via the draft) faster than your opponents. 1. Draft "hits" at a significantly higher rate, which doesn't really happen. Statistically the best and worst GM"s hit on picks at a frequency within 10% of other. 2. Draft more. Accept the fact that every other guy you draft will suck and bring in more draft picks and with them, more hits. The idea that we're gonna hire someone who's going to start hitting on 80% of these picks is a laughable myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'm already up way past my bedtime. 3rd shift is wrecking my life; I highly recommend never doing it. Talk to you all about this fun stuff later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, ditchdigger said: I'm already up way past my bedtime. 3rd shift is wrecking my life; I highly recommend never doing it. Talk to you all about this fun stuff later today. I feel for ya bud, I worked 7p-7a for 5 years and it was absolutely miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 here it is. Go ahead and say it’s fake and that he’s just a hater @Mind Character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: here it is. Go ahead and say it’s fake and that he’s just a hater @Mind Character WOW. This is epic and horrific. Ben Allbright may also have ruined his own career by partially revealing his source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Guesses as to the coach? I'm going to say probably Al Saunders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: WOW. This is epic and horrific. Ben Allbright may also have ruined his own career by partially revealing his source. How did he partially reveal his source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: Guesses as to the coach? I'm going to say probably Al Saunders. I’m guessing Gregg Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: here it is. Go ahead and say it’s fake and that he’s just a hater @Mind Character By posting these in the first place, he revealed his source and undermined his journalistic power because when you're are a reporter, you report what you hear and cite sources thus giving your source plausible deniability. You can publish leaked documents supporting your claims or emails that cannot be linked back to your source. There are few coaches on the staff and it is easy to identify the source if Jimmy wants to really investigate this leak. They can dig into Albright's background and discern who the likely Coach is with relationships to him, or they can easily use money to investigate via online via a private investigator. That gives the FO the ability to fire the coach with cause and professional and college organizations do just this all the time. ---------------------------------- If you're a real reporter, you take the heat from skeptics and stand firm in your journalistic integrity...there's zero need to publish these emails....So what...now the twitter skeptics believe you now... It was a terrible journalistic decision by Benjamin Albright as I stated in the OP...gives the coaches no plausible deniability and really ensures firing Albright said on the cbs cleveland "I'm going to publish the emails because I don't local trolls talking bad about my name"...What??? Does he know what journalism is? ---------------------------------- If Jimmy has a coaches meeting, and asks who did this...someone either falls on their sword or lies to Jimmy giving him even more cause for firing. If these emails aren't publish, the coaches could just say Albright is making it up. It's a really terrible journalistic decision and really shows Albright is not secure in his reporting nor does he understand how these emails will further the goal of ownership firing the coaches. Whoever the coach is...is foolish for doing this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: How did he partially reveal his source? @Mind Character gave a great explanation in all honesty in his first paragraph. No reason for me to go much more in detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I’m guessing Gregg Williams. the fact that you can hazard an educated guess proves the point that he partially revealed his source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 that being said, he is asking for permission, so it doesnt really matter. its almost like the coaches want to get fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, mistakey said: that being said, he is asking for permission, so it doesnt really matter. its almost like the coaches want to get fired This South Park episode where they intentionally try to lose comes to mind instantly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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