OneTwoSixFive Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 The Packers have coped with injuries to many different positions really well this year, but one thing they are in fairly desperate need of in the next draft, are high quality return guys (punt and kick). Which prospects should they be looking at in this draft ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1. WR Zay Flowers | Boston College 2. RB Kyren Williams | Notre Dame 3. RB Jerrion Ealy | Ole Miss 4. CB Marcus Jones | Houston 5. RB Malik Davis | Florida 6. RB James Cook | Georgia 7. RB Deuce Vaughn | Kansas St 8. WR Khalil Shakir | Boise St 9. WR Winston Wright | West Virginia (Jr) 10. WR Ainias Smith | Texas A&M 11. WR Josh Ali | Kentucky 12. WR Romeo Doubs | Nevada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) @BrownLeader Many thanks for the reply. I'll look them up. Were there any on your list that make you go "WOW!" I have to say that Marcus Jones (CB) stood out (in terms of value for money). 2 punt returns and 2 kick returns for touchdowns. Looks like he could be had as a mid-late 3rd round pick. He was first choice as a returner on the Sporting News 2021 All-American team. Kyren Williams and Zay Flowers don't appear to have much experience as returners and seem to require a pick in the region of the very end of round 2 to the top of round 3. RB James Cook looks like good value (thedraftnetwork has him as a 5th round pick), very athletic and great feet. Edited December 16, 2021 by OneTwoSixFive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 5:22 PM, BrownLeader said: 1. WR Zay Flowers | Boston College 2. RB Kyren Williams | Notre Dame 3. RB Jerrion Ealy | Ole Miss 4. CB Marcus Jones | Houston 5. RB Malik Davis | Florida 6. RB James Cook | Georgia 7. RB Deuce Vaughn | Kansas St 8. WR Khalil Shakir | Boise St 9. WR Winston Wright | West Virginia (Jr) 10. WR Ainias Smith | Texas A&M 11. WR Josh Ali | Kentucky 12. WR Romeo Doubs | Nevada That seems like a very odd list honestly. Marcus Jones at least you have on there, he is arguably the most productive of all of the return guys over time and he looks to be a pretty decent corner as well. How is Jameson Williams no on this list? Dude was a standout kick return man arguably the best in the nation in terms of taking it the distance. And where is Jahan Dotson, he is a very solid punt return man, not to mention Trestan Ebner who is really productive and could get drafted on his return ability alone. Jequez Ezzard from Sam Houston State I liked last year, have not seen him this year but is cat quick and absolutely has return potential with his quickness. Some of the guys you listed might not even be in this draft, Ealy not sure he declares and same with Zay Flowers. Also not sure Malik Davis is a good return man at all and again with Deuce Vaughn not sure he declares or even can either, isnt he a true SOPH. Doubs also not sure he is a return man at all, he was never that good at special teams on Nevada. Winston Wright has big time ability and quickness but not sure he declares early either for the draft this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ozzy said: That seems like a very odd list honestly. Marcus Jones at least you have on there, he is arguably the most productive of all of the return guys over time and he looks to be a pretty decent corner as well. How is Jameson Williams no on this list? Dude was a standout kick return man arguably the best in the nation in terms of taking it the distance. And where is Jahan Dotson, he is a very solid punt return man, not to mention Trestan Ebner who is really productive and could get drafted on his return ability alone. Jequez Ezzard from Sam Houston State I liked last year, have not seen him this year but is cat quick and absolutely has return potential with his quickness. Some of the guys you listed might not even be in this draft, Ealy not sure he declares and same with Zay Flowers. Also not sure Malik Davis is a good return man at all and again with Deuce Vaughn not sure he declares or even can either, isnt he a true SOPH. Doubs also not sure he is a return man at all, he was never that good at special teams on Nevada. Winston Wright has big time ability and quickness but not sure he declares early either for the draft this year. Williams and Dotson I see as starting NFL WR's. I was looking at guys that would be down the depth chart but primary returners. Haven't watched Ebner and Ezzard. Flowers is returning. Malik Davis returned kicks this season and is a really underrated 3rd down guy imo. Doubs has been the primary punt returner for Nevada for his career and is a good open field runner with secure hands. We'll see about Ealy and Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 4:36 AM, OneTwoSixFive said: @BrownLeader Many thanks for the reply. I'll look them up. Were there any on your list that make you go "WOW!" I have to say that Marcus Jones (CB) stood out (in terms of value for money). 2 punt returns and 2 kick returns for touchdowns. Looks like he could be had as a mid-late 3rd round pick. He was first choice as a returner on the Sporting News 2021 All-American team. Kyren Williams and Zay Flowers don't appear to have much experience as returners and seem to require a pick in the region of the very end of round 2 to the top of round 3. RB James Cook looks like good value (thedraftnetwork has him as a 5th round pick), very athletic and great feet. Favorite guy on there was Flowers but he's returning to school. After that I guess I'd say Kyren Williams...but he's talented enough to be a starting RB for many teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, BrownLeader said: Williams and Dotson I see as starting NFL WR's. I was looking at guys that would be down the depth chart but primary returners. Haven't watched Ebner and Ezzard. Flowers is returning. Malik Davis returned kicks this season and is a really underrated 3rd down guy imo. Doubs has been the primary punt returner for Nevada for his career and is a good open field runner with secure hands. We'll see about Ealy and Wright. Doubs never had over 170 yards punt returning in a season any of the four years he played on Nevada, and only returned one kick. Like this year for example, he only had 12 actual punt returns so yeah he went back and caught it but rarely even returned it for yards really. Sure if in a bind one could do it but physically he is not a punt return man unless all you are looking for is someone to catch it. On the other hand Ebner had 24 returns this year for 511 yards and 1 TD and the year before that 612 yards on 19 returns and 2 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Doubs never had over 170 yards punt returning in a season any of the four years he played on Nevada, and only returned one kick. Like this year for example, he only had 12 actual punt returns so yeah he went back and caught it but rarely even returned it for yards really. Sure if in a bind one could do it but physically he is not a punt return man unless all you are looking for is someone to catch it. On the other hand Ebner had 24 returns this year for 511 yards and 1 TD and the year before that 612 yards on 19 returns and 2 TDs. your comparing kick returns and punt returns. Doubs has had 37 career punt returns for a solid 12.5 avg. It's not a ton of attempts but he's also amassed 225 catches for 3322 yds during the same time. Ebner's had 25 career punt returns for just a 6.5 avg. I'm not saying Doubs is the better punt returner but he's had plenty experience. Reliable hands is a key trait and he gets to top speed quickly with quick feet. He's not breaking any tackles but he'll eat up space quickly if afforded it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Britain Covey from Utah is my guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lark25 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 2:35 AM, Johnny Nix said: Britain Covey from Utah is my guy 97 yard return was ridiculous. How fast is the dude to seemingly casually further separate from tOSU dbs chasing him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Updating this... 1. RB Zonovan Knight | N.C. State 2. WR Britain Covey | Utah 3. WR Wan'Dale Robinson | Kentucky 4. RB Kyren Williams | Notre Dame 5. RB Jerrion Ealy | Ole Miss 6. CB Mykael Wright | Oregon 7. CB Marcus Jones | Houston 8. RB James Cook | Georgia 9. WR Josh Ali | Kentucky 10. WR Deven Thompkins | Utah St 11. WR Romeo Doubs | Nevada 12. WR Khalil Shakur | Boise St Edited January 11, 2022 by BrownLeader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) If we're talking purely returns, Marcus Jones is the best I've seen so far. He's just an unbelievable athlete. And he has added value as a slot CB. Wish he had the size to play outside because I love his physicality and athletic traits, but he can't handle big WRs. Could be one of the best slot CBs, though. And part of me would want to see what he could do on offense. But I'd hate to waste his defensive skillset. Edited January 10, 2022 by jrry32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folesadelphia Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I haven't seen all the guys you all mentioned play but I have seen Marcus Jones. I have a hard time believing there are better returners then him but I'll have to check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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