Head Coach Firing/Hiring/Interview Rumors

[RaidersAreOne]

25 minutes ago, minutemancl said:

Called this. This had to be part of the selling point to get Graham to Vegas. Graham and Judge are super close.

We hired someone else and Judge is going back to the Pats. 

[Nabbs4u]

15 hours ago, CP3MVP said:

My problem with Gannon is every time the Eagles faced a good QB they torched him. Like every time

You'll get absolutely no argument here!! I never understood why he was getting interviews in the first place? Was hoping he'd leave TBH.

Now part of me wants to keep the staff together for more then 1 year to see if the Eagles can bring in more talent on the defensive side of the ball would Gannons system work better in 2022? It's not like he had a lot to work with? LB, S, DE, CB are all needs.

However if this bend don't break BS defense gets destroyed again vs good QB's in 22', he can kick rocks.

As for the Texans stringing him along, he did the right thing. 💩 or get off the pot.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Nabbs4u

[CWood21]

On 2/7/2022 at 6:18 PM, Broncofan said:

That didn't last long, the Chiefs & Bienemy worked out a deal.

 

Here's the thing though - Bienemy wasn't under contract.   So the Chiefs didn't have to give permission for him to get even OC job interviews.   So not only did he strike out on the HC interview front, no one thought to try and poach him as their OC, either.   Remember, if you're not under contract - KC doesn't need to give permission.

I have no idea what it is that keeps teams from hiring Bienemy, but I will say this - if AFC teams wanted to both hurt Reid's coaching staff and strengthen their own team's coaching staff, it would seem nuts not to at least kick the tires on Bienemy.  The fact no team in his own division, or conference, has chased Bienemy seriously - man, I think there's more there than just glass ceilings.   

I just don't think his HC stock is all that high.  He needs to get away from Andy Reid and find success if he wants to be a HC IMO.

[SkippyX]

Vikings? Ed Donatell? Really?

[Forge]

6 hours ago, CWood21 said:

I just don't think his HC stock is all that high.  He needs to get away from Andy Reid and find success if he wants to be a HC IMO.

Agreed. I think he made the right call going back to KC for this upcoming year if only because at this juncture I don't think that there are great opportunities to OC currently. The saints are maybe the most promising, but with no QB and possibly no Kamara, that could get ugly. 

So if I were him, I would have re-signed for just a single year and gotten the lay of the land next year. Pick a situation that is likely to succeed and pounce on that. Don't want to go to a bad situation and just blow up any future opportunities, but lets say Ken Dorsey is one and done in Buffalo and gets a head coaching gig, how appealing is going to Buffalo for a year or two with Josh Allen? lol 

[KingOfNewYork]

7 hours ago, CWood21 said:

I just don't think his HC stock is all that high.  He needs to get away from Andy Reid and find success if he wants to be a HC IMO.

Which is crazy since attaching yourself to McVay means you get a Head Coaching job within a couple years

[BroncoSojia]

4 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Vikings? Ed Donatell? Really?

I think Bob Slowik is more responsible for this than anyone else.

Edited February 9, 2022 by BroncoSojia

[ET80]

On 2/7/2022 at 10:01 AM, TitanSlim said:

And what was up with the Hines Ward interview?

More experience than Josh McCown...

[jrry32]

43 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said:

Which is crazy since attaching yourself to McVay means you get a Head Coaching job within a couple years

True lol. Should have called McVay up and asked to replace KOC.

[Broncofan]

So this is where the offset $ clauses in contracts likely factors in.  DEN's HC $ for Fangio 2022 is fully guaranteed - but almost certainly also has the offset clause.   Meaning that any $ Fangio earned in a 2022 job salary-wise would have gone back to DEN instead of Fangio (unless he got paid more than the DEN HC gig <unlikely> and then he only pockets the extra $, the rest still goes to DEN).   No doubt he'll find plenty of offers in 2023.

It shows exactly why players fight so hard not to have offset language in their contract, though.

 

[NVRamsFan]

6 hours ago, Broncofan said:

So this is where the offset $ clauses in contracts likely factors in.  DEN's HC $ for Fangio 2022 is fully guaranteed - but almost certainly also has the offset clause.   Meaning that any $ Fangio earned in a 2022 job salary-wise would have gone back to DEN instead of Fangio (unless he got paid more than the DEN HC gig <unlikely> and then he only pockets the extra $, the rest still goes to DEN).   No doubt he'll find plenty of offers in 2023.

It shows exactly why players fight so hard not to have offset language in their contract, though.

 

Add in that now he likely has his choice of DC gigs next year.

[AlexGreen#20]

On 2/7/2022 at 11:01 AM, TitanSlim said:

So it sounds like it played out like this.
-Gannon, Flores and McCown are the finalists for the job

-Gannon removes himself from the search after it sounds like he gave them a time frame or ultimatum for his hiring.

-That leaves Flores and McCown but let’s be honest, no team is hiring Flores with his lawsuit against the league. That leaves McCown.

-The optics of hiring McCown was bad even before the Flores lawsuit but now, there’s no way they can hire him at this time. Whether that discussion came from the league, within the Texans organization or both, who knows.

-That leaves them scrambling to find a quality coaching candidate. In walks their current DC, former head coach Lovie Smith. And that’s where we are now

Hey, maybe this works out for them. This was just another disastrous coaching search for them. And what was up with the Hines Ward interview?

Needed to interview a second minority candidate once it became private knowledge that the Flores interview had a chance to considered not a feasible hire due to the lawsuit that they knew was pending.

Which makes the Lovie hire that much more ridiculous, is that the guy they ended up hiring would have met the requirement, but they didn't even think about him as an option until like a week and a half ago.

[ravishingone]

I'm confused, I thought it was a done deal he was returning.  

[CWood21]

12 hours ago, Broncofan said:

So this is where the offset $ clauses in contracts likely factors in.

I really do wonder how many HCs have offset clauses in their contract.  I'd imagine all first time HC do.

[KingOfNewYork]

On 2/7/2022 at 7:18 PM, Broncofan said:

That didn't last long, the Chiefs & Bienemy worked out a deal.

 

Here's the thing though - Bienemy wasn't under contract.   So the Chiefs didn't have to give permission for him to get even OC job interviews.   So not only did he strike out on the HC interview front, no one thought to try and poach him as their OC, either.   Remember, if you're not under contract - KC doesn't need to give permission.

I have no idea what it is that keeps teams from hiring Bienemy, but I will say this - if AFC teams wanted to both hurt Reid's coaching staff and strengthen their own team's coaching staff, it would seem nuts not to at least kick the tires on Bienemy.  The fact no team in his own division, or conference, has chased Bienemy seriously - man, I think there's more there than just glass ceilings.   

I mean he has a choice too. He did say he’s not just going to jump at any opportunity and wants it to be the right choice. He understands the game that’s being played and is going to be patient. Whenever he does get a shot there’s going to be immense pressure on him to win and win big because of all the discussion about his head coaching potential. Would you go to a team void of a Quarterback, in cap hell or that’s dysfunctional? There was only a couple good jobs available this year.