Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Before the start of the season, we had this thread, in which we ranked the QBs of the League, a lot has changed with new faces emerging and thriving, with others looking like a shell of their former selves. Consider this the interim report of QB grades. The criteria that comes into play is completely up to you. Here are mine: 1. Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Drew Brees 4. Russell Wilson 5. Matt Ryan 6. Matthew Stafford 7. Andrew Luck 8. Alex Smith 9. Kirk Cousins 10. Carson Wentz 11. Dak Prescott 12. Derek Carr 13. Phillip Rivers 14. Ben Roethlisberger 15. DeShaun Watson 16. Ryan Tannehill 17. Tyrod Taylor 18. Eli Manning 19. Blake Bortles 20. Jared Goff 21. Andy Dalton 22. Cam Newton 23. Jameis Winston 24. Marcus Mariota 25. Josh McCown 26. Carson Palmer 27. Sam Bradford 28. Brian Hoyer 29. Mitchell Trubisky 30. Trevor Siemian 31. Joe Flacco 32. DeShone Kizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 How is Luck ranked 7th? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Elite Tier: Brady/Rodgers/Brees Great Tier: Wilson/Wentz/Cousins Very Good Tier: Luck/Ryan/Smith/Carr Franchise QB Tier: Goff/Rivers/Roethlisburger/Prescott/Mariota/Stafford Borderline Franchise QB Tier: Winston/Newton/Dalton/Taylor/Bradford High Quality Backup Low Quality Starter Tier: McCown/Hoyer/Flacco/Cutler/Tannehill/Brissett/Manning/Kaepernick/Palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 How the hell is Dak two levels below WentZ ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1- Rodgers 2- Brady 3- Wilson 4- Brees 5- Ryan 6- Stafford 7- Carr 8- Wentz 9- Luck 10- Dak 11- Alex 12- Big Ben 13- Watson 14- Cousins 15- Rivers 16- Newton 17- Flacco 18- Winston 19- Mariota 20- Goff 21- Dalton 22- Taylor 23- Bradford 24- Manning 25- Palmer 26- McCown 27- Gapporolo 28- Bortles 29- Cutler 30- Siemian/Brock 31- Trubisky 32- Browns QBs Some guys (Luck, Watson, Jimmy G, Jameis/Mariota) are really hard to place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 OOooooo, I'll do two lists. A "right here right now list", and an overall level-of-talent list. TODAY Brady Wentz Brees Smith Wilson Goff Carr Ryan Cousins Roethlisberger OVERALL, EVERYONE HEALTHY Rodgers Brady Brees Wilson Smith Roethlisberger Wentz Watson Carr Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 17 hours ago, johndeere1707 said: How is Luck ranked 7th? Just curious Just my opinion. Look how bad the Colts are this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1. Tom Brady 2. Drew Brees 3. Russell Wilson 4. Carson Wentz 5. Alex Smith 6. Matthew Stafford 7. Dak Prescott 8. Kirk Cousins 9. Derek Carr 10. Matt Ryan 11. Phillip Rivers 12. Ben Roethlisberger 13. Jared Goff 14. Marcus Mariota 15. Cam Newton 16. Jameis Winston 17. Andy Dalton 18. Tyrod Taylor 19. Case Keenum 20. Josh McCown 21. Eli Manning 22. Jacoby Brissett 23. Blake Bortles 24. Joe Flacco 25. Mitchell Trubisky 26. Brock Osweiler? 27. C.J. Beathard? 28. Drew Stanton 29. Brett Hundley 30. Jay Cutler 31. Deshone Kizer 32. Tom Savage As I did at the start of the season, I'm ranking the current starting quarterbacks to the best of my knowledge. If the Broncos QB is Trevor Siemian, I'd drop his ranking down two spots. If the 49ers QB is Jimmy G, he's be ranked..... somewhere in the 18-22 range. #18based on where I would project him to be, #22 because he hasn't played so I'm going to hedge my bets and not rank him ahead of QB's who have played at least decently.... or Eli Manning. This QB list is frightening. I have Blake Bortles almost outside of the bottom ten. Blake Bortles!!! He's still terrible and the Jaguars have been winning in part because they've minimized his impact. I'm cutting Cam Newton a lot of slack based on his surrounding cast. Not as much as I did on the last ranking I did, but moreso than other quarterbacks. When he plays, I still see what he could be if he had a decent surrounding cast. His o-line is terrible, his run game is non existent and he's been given nothing but tall slow receivers when he relies on deep passing to bail himself out of trouble. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We are seeing the Alex Smith we would have seen all along had he switched places with Aaron Rodgers in the 2005 NFL draft. Andy Dalton and Tyrod Taylor are rising through my ranks based entirely on other quarterbacks getting injured. Having Phillip Rivers at #11 and Ben Roethlisberger at #12 again gives me a small amount of schadenfreude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I have Winston well in the 20s. Is that harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 56 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: I have Winston well in the 20s. Is that harsh? I would say it depends if you have the likes of Rodgers, Luck, Bradford and Watson on your list. If you do, not so bad. If you don't.... pretty harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Crickett said: I would say it depends if you have the likes of Rodgers, Luck, Bradford and Watson on your list. If you do, not so bad. If you don't.... pretty harsh. Yeah it's with a full deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Brees really hasn't been amazing this year. He's been efficient and more of a game manager than carryign the team, thank god we got Ramzy to keep our OL up and running with Strief and Armstead injuries, but I'd probably put him outside of the top 5 this year based on his current stats, though I would've put him top 2 in the majority of his other yeras with the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 11:39 PM, Raves said: Brees really hasn't been amazing this year. He's been efficient and more of a game manager than carryign the team, thank god we got Ramzy to keep our OL up and running with Strief and Armstead injuries, but I'd probably put him outside of the top 5 this year based on his current stats, though I would've put him top 2 in the majority of his other yeras with the Saints. Brees hasn't been at MVP level, but he's been much more than a game manager. His comp% is at a career high, his yards/attempt are the highest since 2011, his int% is at a career low, and he's on pace for over 4k yards and 26 TDs and a 105 rating. Bulk stats-wise, he's a good bit lower than usual, but his usual is so astronomically high it makes him look like a game manager, but he is most definitely not. By comparison, alex Smith, the prototypical game manager, has never thrown more than 4k yards in a season, and his highest TD total ever was 23. He is of course on pace for higher stats this year, but this year he's not been a game manager at all. His stats are very similar to 2006 stats, and he led the league in passing yards in 2006 and made the NFCCG. But I agree with you that Brees isn't carrying the team, and that plus relatively low bulk stats puts him out of the MVP conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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