Boodgyman5220 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Defense gonna have to ball out! Need some classic ravens defensive turnovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Boodgyman5220 said: Defense gonna have to ball out! Need some classic ravens defensive turnovers Yeah in order to win today we need 2+ turnovers from the D. Unfortunately this 2021 Ravens defense seems allergic to creating turnovers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltimoreRebel Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Imagine in August, someone told you Batemans first TD catch would be thrown by Josh Johnson in December... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Have we been calling more short passes the last two weeks? Or does Lamar just not throw them when their available? Play Calling, or play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Boodgyman5220 said: Have we been calling more short passes the last two weeks? Or does Lamar just not throw them when their available? Play Calling, or play? Not gonna be popular but I think it’s Lamar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: Not gonna be popular but I think it’s Lamar I might look back at some games and look for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Stop me if you’ve heard this before Ravens playing with their practice squad and we’ve already lost another CB and been the recipient of an atrocious call with that illegal contact lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 We still innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltimoreRebel Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Passing was working? Ditch it! Run it! Greg Roman. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 With every passing snap of Huntley and Johnson actually throwing to and hitting open WRs the narrative of “Roman can’t get these guys open” seems to be dissolving. Think we need to have an honest conversation about Lamar in this passing game. We had the suspicion but it’s pretty clear now he was passing up open options and holding the ball way too long this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: With every passing snap of Huntley and Johnson actually throwing to and hitting open WRs the narrative of “Roman can’t get these guys open” seems to be dissolving. Think we need to have an honest conversation about Lamar in this passing game. We had the suspicion but it’s pretty clear now he was passing up open options and holding the ball way too long this year. I feel like everyone forgot the first half of the season with Lamar (without Bateman for most of it) and is overstating how long his terrible stretch was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: I feel like everyone forgot the first half of the season with Lamar (without Bateman for most of it) and is overstating how long his terrible stretch was. Disagree. He put up great passing #s against KC, IND, and MIN but we were trailing early and pretty much throughout the entirety in those games so he threw it like 50 times. A big reason we were down as big as we were in those games is because he played objectively poorly early on in them. He was good the entire game at Denver. Probably his best game of the season IMO. He was meh-average against LV, DET, and LAC. He was bad against Miami, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and first Cincy game. He’s obviously our QB going forward and that’s great, he’s a great player, but we need to be honest in assessing him this season. Outside of the Herculean efforts in the 2nd halves against KC, IND, and MIN, he wasn’t very good this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: Disagree. He put up great passing #s against KC, IND, and MIN but we were trailing early and pretty much throughout the entirety in those games so he threw it like 50 times. A big reason we were down as big as we were in those games is because he played objectively poorly early on in them. He was good the entire game at Denver. Probably his best game of the season IMO. He was meh-average against LV, DET, and LAC. He was bad against Miami, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and first Cincy game. He’s obviously our QB going forward and that’s great, he’s a great player, but we need to be honest in assessing him this season. Outside of the Herculean efforts in the 2nd halves against KC, IND, and MIN, he wasn’t very good this year. The offense was average to slightly above average in offensive DVOA before the second Cleveland game. The quality of players that were there during that span were far below average. I value offensive production and especially efficiency a lot more than the narratives that overhype or dismiss or excuse certain results. What I weight heavily is that with Lamar playing we have been the amount of scoring we do per drive is far better most of the league and the supporting cast talent-wise has been worse than average as a whole. Edited December 26, 2021 by wackywabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, wackywabbit said: The offense was average to slightly above average in offensive DVOA before the second Cleveland game. The quality of players that were there during that span were far below average. I value offensive production and especially efficiency a lot more than the narratives that overhype or dismiss or excuse certain results. What I weight heavily is that with Lamar playing we have been the amount of scoring we do per drive is far better most of the league and the supporting cast talent-wise has been worse than average as a whole. Yeah I think we’ll just agree to disagree because those same players you don’t think highly of have executed as efficiently or more efficiently the past 3 weeks with Huntley (CLE + GB) and today with Johnson. I think it’s pretty clear to see the difference in the offense’s ability to move the ball the past few weeks vs what it looked like against Miami, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and the first few drives with Lamar in the 2nd Cleveland game. It was clear that group of players weren’t successfully moving and scoring during that stretch. It’s been the same group of players the past few weeks but the execution has looked a lot better. I don’t think that’s arguable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I know our defense is down some players, but it seems like the bigger problem vs Cincy is that they seem to know exactly what's coming, and they have a perfect play to counter it. They undressed Wink the first matchup when we had more players. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is our defense really that decimated? Our front 7 is largely intact and has starting caliber players at all positions. We have 2 out of our 3 top safeties (Clark and Stephens). Yes our CBs are decimated outside of Young. I just don't think we can just use excuses for this kind of performance given we still have some talent on the defensive side of the ball. The bigger problem is that Burrow and Taylor absolutely own Wink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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