Kiwibrown Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 2016 We sign Pryor who goes to get 1k yards on a sorry season 1.15 Corey Coleman bust and a terrible person 4.114 Louis bad 4.138 Seth DeValve the Gronk of the Ivy leagues briefly mediocre then out of the league 5.154 Joran Payton one reception 5.172 Rishard Higgins solid depth 2017 Lose Pryor, who was then terrible. gain Kenny Britt huge waste of money, would run routes in practice would only walk them. Gregg warned against signing him. Cut soon after by Dorsey. 1.29 David Njoku flashes of brilliance, but has not been effective for us consistently. 2018 resign Josh Gordon trade after 1 week. 1 reception 17 yards. Trade for Jarvis Landry 4th and a 7th sign to a 75 million dollar contract. He produces 2k in his first two years and is sitting at 1200 for the next two. To his credit he was great vs the Steelers in the playoffs. 4.105 Antonio Callaway, highly talented, physically, didnt want to be a pro, showed flashes of greatness 6.175 Damian Ratley flashes of mediocrity and out of the league. 2019 OBJThe Browns acquired WR Odell Beckham, Jr. and LB Olivier Vernon from the New York Giants in exchange for SS Jabrill Peppers, G Kevin Zeitler, and 2019 1st-round (No. 17) and 3rd-round (No. 95) selections. This includes OBJ mega contract briefly the highest paid WR in the NFL. Demetrious Harris. He was pretty bad for us. 2020 Austin Hooper is made briefly the highest paid TE in the NFL. 2020 he manages 9.5 YPC and 2021 8.8 YPC without many explosive plays 4.115 Harrison Bryant, he has had some moments as a receiving tight end for us, not looking like a true no.1 TE 6.187 Draft DPJ, an inconsistent but explosive play maker, he hasnt declared what he is a no.2,3 or no.4 WR 2021 3.91 Anthony Schwartz he has failed to make much of an impact for us as a WR. RECAP In recap after trading a 1, Peppers, trading a 4th and a 7th, using multiple late and a mid round pick we have failed to acquire a starting WR. this includes millions of dollars and having the highest paid WR group in the NFL. Further, we have spent premium money and picks on tight ends and have only had mediocre at best production from them. its not a failure to allocate resources to the position, its a failure to execute this cluster of development, spans 3 GMs, Sachi, Dorsey and Berry. A wide variety of coaches that have failed to develop the talent too. Edited December 26, 2021 by Kiwibrown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Farmer was on record saying he didn’t value receivers. We drafted Corey Coleman who was awful. Aside from him, the last real effort we made to draft one high was Braylon almost 20 years ago. Sure there are a lot of gems later on, but we haven’t made an effort to address that spot in a long time. 5 years is an eternity in the NFL, let alone a mid first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Farmer was on record saying he didn’t value receivers. We drafted Corey Coleman who was awful. Aside from him, the last real effort we made to draft one high was Braylon almost 20 years ago. Sure there are a lot of gems later on, but we haven’t made an effort to address that spot in a long time. 5 years is an eternity in the NFL, let alone a mid first round pick. We essentially spend 2 1st on OBJ with Peppers and the no.17 overall pick. We missed out on AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, DK Metcalf, and other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said: We essentially spend 2 1st on OBJ with Peppers and the no.17 overall pick. We missed out on AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, DK Metcalf, and other players. I wanted Dk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Higgins would be a star if we forced him the ball the way they do DPJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 some of the most unclutch pass catchers too. I cant think of a defining catch by a WR in a long time. I can think of the drops but the catches that stand out, are not there. Hell the only catch is maybe the Njoku TD vs the ravens but that wasnt really a catch lol I can recall way too many meaningful drops than meaningful catches and that is quite sad... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: 2016 We sign Pryor who goes to get 1k yards on a sorry season 1.15 Corey Coleman bust and a terrible person 4.114 Louis bad 4.138 Seth DeValve the Gronk of the Ivy leagues briefly mediocre then out of the league 5.154 Joran Payton one reception 5.172 Rishard Higgins solid depth 2017 Lose Pryor, who was then terrible. gain Kenny Britt huge waste of money, would run routes in practice would only walk them. Gregg warned against signing him. Cut soon after by Dorsey. 1.29 David Njoku flashes of brilliance, but has not been effective for us consistently. 2018 resign Josh Gordon trade after 1 week. 1 reception 17 yards. Trade for Jarvis Landry 4th and a 7th sign to a 75 million dollar contract. He produces 2k in his first two years and is sitting at 1200 for the next two. To his credit he was great vs the Steelers in the playoffs. 4.105 Antonio Callaway, highly talented, physically, didnt want to be a pro, showed flashes of greatness 6.175 Damian Ratley flashes of mediocrity and out of the league. 2019 OBJThe Browns acquired WR Odell Beckham, Jr. and LB Olivier Vernon from the New York Giants in exchange for SS Jabrill Peppers, G Kevin Zeitler, and 2019 1st-round (No. 17) and 3rd-round (No. 95) selections. This includes OBJ mega contract briefly the highest paid WR in the NFL. Demetrious Harris. He was pretty bad for us. 2020 Austin Hooper is made briefly the highest paid TE in the NFL. 2020 he manages 9.5 YPC and 2021 8.8 YPC without many explosive plays 4.115 Harrison Bryant, he has had some moments as a receiving tight end for us, not looking like a true no.1 TE 6.187 Draft DPJ, an inconsistent but explosive play maker, he hasnt declared what he is a no.2,3 or no.4 WR 2021 3.91 Anthony Schwartz he has failed to make much of an impact for us as a WR. RECAP In recap after trading a 1, Peppers, trading a 4th and a 7th, using multiple late and a mid round pick we have failed to acquire a starting WR. this includes millions of dollars and having the highest paid WR group in the NFL. Further, we have spent premium money and picks on tight ends and have only had mediocre at best production from them. its not a failure to allocate resources to the position, its a failure to execute this cluster of development, spans 3 GMs, Sachi, Dorsey and Berry. A wide variety of coaches that have failed to develop the talent too. Well, other than all that, Mrs. Lincoln, how have you enjoyed the play? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 We’ve historically struggled finding WR talent. Our best WR off the top of my head is Warfield, but that’s it. It’s the same deal with QBs and defensive players for the most part. We’re historically known for runningbacks and offensive linemen. You could include tight ends also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, candyman93 said: You could include tight ends also. He may be the GM for the Ravens, but Ozzie Newsome is still my all time favorite Browns player. Loved Steve Heiden as well Edited December 27, 2021 by pscottdai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 4 hours ago, pscottdai said: He may be the GM for the Ravens, but Ozzie Newsome is still my all time favorite Browns player. Take a lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, NudeTayne said: Take a lap. I am old, to us old farts that means take a victory lap Good thing I have grandkids to know what you meant ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: 2016 We sign Pryor who goes to get 1k yards on a sorry season 1.15 Corey Coleman bust and a terrible person 4.114 Louis bad 4.138 Seth DeValve the Gronk of the Ivy leagues briefly mediocre then out of the league 5.154 Joran Payton one reception 5.172 Rishard Higgins solid depth 2017 Lose Pryor, who was then terrible. gain Kenny Britt huge waste of money, would run routes in practice would only walk them. Gregg warned against signing him. Cut soon after by Dorsey. 1.29 David Njoku flashes of brilliance, but has not been effective for us consistently. 2018 resign Josh Gordon trade after 1 week. 1 reception 17 yards. Trade for Jarvis Landry 4th and a 7th sign to a 75 million dollar contract. He produces 2k in his first two years and is sitting at 1200 for the next two. To his credit he was great vs the Steelers in the playoffs. 4.105 Antonio Callaway, highly talented, physically, didnt want to be a pro, showed flashes of greatness 6.175 Damian Ratley flashes of mediocrity and out of the league. 2019 OBJThe Browns acquired WR Odell Beckham, Jr. and LB Olivier Vernon from the New York Giants in exchange for SS Jabrill Peppers, G Kevin Zeitler, and 2019 1st-round (No. 17) and 3rd-round (No. 95) selections. This includes OBJ mega contract briefly the highest paid WR in the NFL. Demetrious Harris. He was pretty bad for us. 2020 Austin Hooper is made briefly the highest paid TE in the NFL. 2020 he manages 9.5 YPC and 2021 8.8 YPC without many explosive plays 4.115 Harrison Bryant, he has had some moments as a receiving tight end for us, not looking like a true no.1 TE 6.187 Draft DPJ, an inconsistent but explosive play maker, he hasnt declared what he is a no.2,3 or no.4 WR 2021 3.91 Anthony Schwartz he has failed to make much of an impact for us as a WR. RECAP In recap after trading a 1, Peppers, trading a 4th and a 7th, using multiple late and a mid round pick we have failed to acquire a starting WR. this includes millions of dollars and having the highest paid WR group in the NFL. Further, we have spent premium money and picks on tight ends and have only had mediocre at best production from them. its not a failure to allocate resources to the position, its a failure to execute this cluster of development, spans 3 GMs, Sachi, Dorsey and Berry. A wide variety of coaches that have failed to develop the talent too. well first of all we went from a excellent wide receiving team to 30th. that said nobody mediocre WR receiver will sign with us. first eg if we win out we maybe selecting 22nd that means 6 wide receivers off the board who is you 7th WR second eg we draft 10th but 3 wr come off the board who is the 4th wr it is going to be interesting but i suggest we get a better wr coach that can assist Berry with drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 We will investigate bringing in Michael Thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 5:05 PM, buno67 said: some of the most unclutch pass catchers too. I cant think of a defining catch by a WR in a long time. I can think of the drops but the catches that stand out, are not there. Hell the only catch is maybe the Njoku TD vs the ravens but that wasnt really a catch lol I can recall way too many meaningful drops than meaningful catches and that is quite sad... Dpj catch in the end zone to win the game I believe Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 hours ago, mtmmike said: Dpj catch in the end zone to win the game I believe Cincinnati. God I couldn’t even think about that damn. With him it’s dropping the pass vs the ravens not making the tough catch vs the packers and the fumble that happen early in the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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