Jump to content

Rich7sena'a Mock Offseason (Update on page 5)


Rich7sena
 Share

Recommended Posts

Much anticipated, never duplicated.

Trades

  • Russell Wilson → Denver Broncos for 11th overall pick, 42nd overall pick, 2023 1st round pick, and Patrick Surtain II.
  • Jimmy Garoppolo → Pittsburgh Steelers for 47th overall and 2023 2nd round pick.
  • Michael Thomas →  Miami Dolphins for 53rd overall pick.

Notable Free Agent Signings

  • Devante Adams → Green Bay Packers
  • Terron Armstead → Miami Dolphins
  • Chris Godwin → Tampa Bay Buccanneers
  • Chandler Jones → Los Angeles Chargers
  • Von Miller → Los Angeles Rams
  • Allen Robinson → New England Patriots
  • Carlton Davis → Indianapolis Colts
  • Marcus Williams → Washington Football Team
  • Orlando Brown → Kansas City Chiefs
  • Mike Williams → Los Angeles Chargers
  • Jessie Bates → Cincinnati Bengals
  • Brandon Scherff → Cincinnati Bengals
  • Jadeveon Clowney → Cleveland Browns
  • Randy Gregory → Seattle Seahawks
  • Stephon Gilmore → Denver Broncos
  • Michael Gallup → Las Vegas Raiders
  • J.C. Jackson → New England Patriots
  • Tyrann Mathieu → Kansas City Chiefs
  • Akiem Hicks → Seattle Seahawks
  • Ryan Jenson → Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Antonio Brown → Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Darious Williams → Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Mike Gesicki → Chicago Bears
  • Harold Landry → Baltimore Ravens
  • Rob Gronkowski → Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Haason Reddick → Carolina Panthers
  • Donta Jackson → Washington Football Team
  • Laken Tomlinson → Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Emmanuel Ogbah → Houston Texans
  • Calais Campbell → Las Angeles Chargers
  • Jerry Hughes → Denver Broncos
  • Duane Brown → Carolina Panthers
  • De’Vondre Campbell → New York Jets
  • Eric Fisher → Indianapolis Colts
  • Charles Leno → Washington Football Team
  • Dalton Schultz → New York Jets
  • Connor Williams → Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Casey Hayward → Las Vegas Raiders
  • D.J. Chark → Cleveland Browns
  • Foyesade Oluokun → Houston Texans
  • Folorunso Fatukasi → Las Vegas Raiders
  • Jameis Winston → New Orleans Saints
  • Juju Smith-Schuster → Chicago Bears
  • Jason Pierre-Paul → Miami Dolphins
  • Marcus Maye → New York Jets
  • Stephen Nelson → Arizona Cardinals
  • Will Fuller → Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Bryce Callahan → San Francisco 49ers
  • Chase Edmonds → Arizona Cardinals
  • Leonard Fournette → Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Justin Houston → Arizona Cardinals
  • Teddy Bridgewater → Seattle Seahawks
  • Christian Kirk → Detroit Lions
  • Odell Beckham → Los Angeles Rams
  • Quandre Diggs → Seattle Seahawks 
  • Dont’a Hightower → Miami Dolphins
  • Melvin Ingram → Arizona Cardinals
  • Derek Barnett → Houston Texans 
  • David Njoku  → San Francisco 49ers
  • Morgan Moses → New York Jets
  • Cordarrelle Patterson → Atlanta Falcons
  • Zach Ertz →  Arizona Cardinals
  • Marcus Mariota → New York Giants
  • James Daniels → San Francisco 49ers 
  • Gerald Everett → Tennessee Titans
  • Jamison Crowder → Washington Football Team
  • Alexander Johnson → Denver Broncos
  • Josey Jewell → Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Charvarius Ward → Houston Texans
  • Brian Allen → Los Angeles Rams
  • Justin Reid → Philadelphia Eagles
  • Jordan Whitehead → San Francisco 49ers
  • Evan Engram → Houston Texans
  • B.J. Hill → Atlanta Falcons
  • Austin Corbett →  Chicago Bears
  • Cam Robinson → Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Trent Brown → New England Patriots

 

Draft

  1. Jacksonville Jaguars select Aidan Hutchinson, Edge, Michigan
  2. Detroit Lions select Kayvon Thibodeaux, Edge, Oregon
  3. Houston Texans select Evan Neal, OT, Alabama
  4. New York Jets select Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati
  5. New York Giants select Ikem Ekwonu, OL, NC State
  6. New York Jets select Derek Stingley, CB, LSU
  7. Carolina Panthers select Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh
  8. New York Giants select Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State
  9. Washington Football Team select Malik Willis, QB, Liberty
  10. Atlanta Falcons select Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
  11. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver Broncos) select Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss
  12. Minnesota Vikings select David Ojabo, Edge, Michigan
  13. New Orleans Saints select Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
  14. Cleveland Browns select Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
  15. Pittsburgh Steelers select Kenyon Green, OL, Texas A&M
  16. Los Angeles Chargers select Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia
  17. Las Vegas Raiders select DeMarvin Leal, DL, Texas A&M
  18. Baltimore Ravens select George Karlaftis, DL, Purdue
  19. Philadelphia Eagles select Drake Jackson, Edge, USC
  20. Philadelphia Eagles select Andrew Boothe Jr., CB, Clemson
  21. Miami Dolphins select Tyler Linderbaum, OL, Iowa
  22. New England Patriots select Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah
  23. Philadelphia Eagles select Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State
  24. Arizona Cardinals select Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida
  25. Buffalo Bills select Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn 
  26. Cincinnati Bengals select Nakobe Dean, LB, Geogia
  27. Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington
  28. Detroit Lions select Drake London, WR, USC
  29. Tennessee Titans select Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa
  30. Dallas Cowboys select Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State
  31. Kansas City Chiefs select Jermaine Johnson II, Edge, Florida State
  32. Green Bay Packers select Kingsley Enagbare, Edge, South Carolina
Edited by Rich7sena
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Only 1 good thing happened for the Falcons in this whole scenario  us keeping Patterson.  I also fully believe Falcons will trade or move Deion Jones before they ever even think of letting our best LB in Foye leave.   Dean Pees has said himself that Foye is the leader of our defense and the key to our future improvement on defense under him.  The only way i see us letting Foye go is if we go with a guy like Nakobe Dean in round 1.   Before i do that i would trade Deion Jones for a 2nd or 3rd sign Foye and then pick a Dean type player in round 1 to replace Debo.   Although with Mykal walker we might not need to replace Debo after moving him just grab some for depth later.

Now with that said the Falcons taking a WR in round 1 to me outside of taking a QB in round 1 is the worst move we could make.   It would be the same BS the Falcons continue to do over and over again neglecting the O-line, D-line, and Secondary for shiny hood ornaments that continue to get us no where.  The ONLY REASON i was ok with Pitts last year is because he was the #1 player in the draft to me.   So it was a BPA pick above all else and their was no defensive players worthy of that pick.    This year theirs not 1 WR or RB i would even remotely even think about taking in round 1 over any of the D-line, DB's, or O-lineman in round 1.  Hell i would even take a LB in round 1 over a WR.

Here is a legit list of players taken after us i would take over any WR you could give us in round 1

Hamilton - Should be the pick easily he is BPA in the draft and still a need
Ojabo - Edge rusher biggest need in draft
Davis -Worst run defense in league and would demand doubles giving the rest of our line 1 on 1's
Leal
Karlaftis
Boothe
Linderbaum
Green
Dean
Lloyd
Elam

As is sits with what happened for the Falcons under your FA and scenario i would give it a F for the Falcons the only worst scenario would be us taking a QB in round 1 without us trading Ryan for a boat load back.

Edited by FalconFan13
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, FalconFan13 said:

Only 1 good thing happened for the Falcons in this whole scenario  us keeping Patterson.  I also fully believe Falcons will trade or move Deion Jones before they ever even think of letting our best LB in Foye leave.   Dean Pees has said himself that Foye is the leader of our defense and the key to our future improvement on defense under him.  The only way i see us letting Foye go is if we go with a guy like Nakobe Dean in round 1.   Before i do that i would trade Deion Jones for a 2nd or 3rd sign Foye and then pick a Dean type player in round 1 to replace Debo.   Although with Mykal walker we might not need to replace Debo after moving him just grab some for depth later.

 

I agree with most things you said. I just don't think we get anything close to that for Debo. I have a feeling based on his performance especially this year and cap hit which ithink is like 9 or 10m for the team taking his contract for 2022. We get a 5th or at best a 4th for hom

Link to comment
Share on other sites

C

Quote

 

Great signing in Scherff.  I agree we extend Bates, but I would be surprised if we didn't keep BJ Hill.  Love the Dean pick, which would elevate the defense to nasty level.  Don't know if the team would do it, but many fans are locked in on OT and CB for the first round.  If they keep Apple and find an OT in free agency or round 2, sign me up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Falconof Shadows said:

I agree with most things you said. I just don't think we get anything close to that for Debo. I have a feeling based on his performance especially this year and cap hit which ithink is like 9 or 10m for the team taking his contract for 2022. We get a 5th or at best a 4th for hom

Which i think i would be fine with i was just randomly throwing out a trade offer not something i knew we would get for him.  Was more so saying we would likely trade him off before cutting him.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

WAY too much for Wilson... -no prediction/s for Deshaun Watson? Rodgers? Not a SINGLE free agent for the Bills? Not sure what's less realistic; Hamilton 13th or Karlaftis 18th. EDIT: Or Garrett Wilson to #30. Oh, and Atlanta would take D-line at #10, not a WR. Certain of this. Unless Stingley is available.

Edited by Suffering_Bills
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Suffering_Bills said:

WAY too much for Wilson... -no prediction/s for Deshaun Watson? Rodgers? Not a SINGLE free agent for the Bills? Not sure what's less realistic; Hamilton 13th or Karlaftis 18th. Oh, and Atlanta would take D-line at #10, not a WR. Certain of this.

Really high chance we go Hamilton there as well considering he would be far and away BPA in that situation.  According to TF he is drafting heavily toward BPA because Talent trumps need when your so devoid of talent overall on a team.  Which is what he did last year with Pitts.  We still already had Hayden Hurst who is a good TE but took the BPA in the entire draft at the same position anyways.  Said he would target need more in FA and BPA in draft.   Now with that said i could still see going D-line before Hamilton just because how bad that position really is for us.  But i wouldn't be mad at all going #1 player in the entire draft in back to back years coming out.

Edited by FalconFan13
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, FalconFan13 said:

Really high chance we go Hamilton there as well considering he would be far and away BPA in that situation.  According to TF he is drafting heavily toward BPA because Talent trumps need when your so devoid of talent overall on a team.  Which is what he did last year with Pitts.  We still already had Hayden Hurst who is a good TE but took the BPA in the entire draft at the same position anyways.  Said he would target need more in FA and BPA in draft.   Now with that said i could still see going D-line before Hamilton just because how bad that position really is for us.  But i wouldn't be mad at all going #1 player in the entire draft in back to back years coming out.

Well, that's part of what's wrong with this mock. Hamilton doesn't fall to #13 under ANY circumstances, IMHO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, Suffering_Bills said:

Well, that's part of what's wrong with this mock. Hamilton doesn't fall to #13 under ANY circumstances, IMHO.

I'm old enough to remember when Derwin James, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Malik Hooker, etc. were all locks to go in the top 10. This forum tends to have amnesia about this kind of stuff.

And spare me with the "this will never happen" talk. These are some greatest hits from previous years:

Quote

[Regarding Julio Jones being traded for a 2nd round pick] Definitely not happening. 1) Julio is worth more. 2) the Falcons have stated he's not being traded this year if at all.

Quote

[Regarding this mocked trade: Eagles trade Carson Wentz and pick 70 to Colts for pick 54 and 2022 second-round pick.] Like the draft, but you're getting some pretty poor trade value for the Eagles.

Quote

cool with aj in the 1st but Hooper will be back with atlanta we are already working on his contract according to dimitroff supposedly. He's the 1 guy i would be extremely surprised if we let go as much as we value him.

Quote

AJ Green is not going anywhere as a free agent.  They will tag him and try to extend him.  The only way he is anywhere other than Cincinnati is by trade.

Quote

[Regarding Dallas taking a WR in a 2020 mock draft] Why use a 1st round pick on another WR when you have them losing a starting DE and starting CB? Plus, they need help across the d-line, so I fail to see the logic on a WR so early.

And so on, and so on. It's why I do it.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 hours ago, Rich7sena said:

I'm old enough to remember when Derwin James, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Malik Hooker, etc. were all locks to go in the top 10. This forum tends to have amnesia about this kind of stuff.

And spare me with the "this will never happen" talk. These are some greatest hits from previous years:

And so on, and so on. It's why I do it.

All very well and good. THAT having been said, there's NO way, in THIS particular draft, that Hamilton falls to #13. Too great of a talent in a generally weak draft.

Edited by Suffering_Bills
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Suffering_Bills said:

All very well and good. hat having been said, there's NO way, in THIS particular draft, that Hamilton falls to #13. Too great of a talent in a generally weak draft.

Im not that down on this draft i do think certain positions are weak but some are really deep with strength.  I think the front 7 in this draft is really good til like the 4th round and i think WR is very strong in the 1st few rounds as well.   RB, QB, and DB after round 2 are all pretty weak to me though.  Think the top 20 picks in this draft is really nice for sure even with the lack of QB that i don't feel deserve to be top 20.

Edited by FalconFan13
Link to comment
Share on other sites

First off, hat off to you. Lots of time and effort represented by this.

 

Looking at the very beginning, however…

I don’t see any plausible world where Patrick Surtain gets traded. However, I doubt many anticipated that Jacksonville would trade away C.J. Henderson. Strange things happen in this league, but if Denver is trading for Russell Willson, I assume they would want to have their young star cornerback on their team to compete?

 

& then Jimmy G… San Francisco got him for a 2nd via trade originally. I know starting caliber QB’s are a dime a dozen.. but fringe starting caliber QB’s are not. If they can get a 1st AND a 2nd, with teams knowing they have no option but to trade him in favor of Lance, hats off to John Lynch & company!

 

➡️ You have the Patriots re-signing Trent Brown and J.C Jackson. I love those moves, and it’s a real possibility they both stay in New England. A+ for that.

➡️ Allen Robinson signing would be huge. There were soft spoken words of Foxboro during his free agency stint that lead him to Chicago. So the interest is (was) apparent. He will not be getting a Kenny Golladay-like payday in free agency if he was to go to N.E.; if he took a ~two year, $26 million dollar deal~, he would benefit by catching balls from the best QB he has ever sad in a second-year Mac Jones. Sheesh. He’s a good run blocker and route runner, who also brings a big, athletic body to the receiver corps and no doubt would improve the offense. Good signing.

➡️ The Patriots drafting Devin Lloyd would be a big gift for Steve Belichick and Jerod Mayo. That’d only help the versatility and toughness of the defense. Give it to me baby 🤩🤩🤩

 

Nice job, man. Happy New Year to you. too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...