SimonGruber Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I hope that Carr comes to play and puts on a great performance. But the Chargers pass defense is slightly above average, their run defense is their biggest flaw, second worst in the league. If we're going to win, Josh Jacobs is going to have a monster game. Hope we don’t force it tho like last time if I recall we tried but Jacobs was stuffed for the most part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, SimonGruber said: Hope we don’t force it tho like last time if I recall we tried but Jacobs was stuffed for the most part That was their only really dominant game against the run, they've gotten mauled recently. And IIRC they're missing some key guys on the interior DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Oak Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, NYRaider said: This is basically a home playoff game. Opened the season on MNF against the Ravens and now we close the season on SNF against the Chargers, win or go home. What a crazy season. The things that America's Game episodes are made of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Oak Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Since the bye week Carr has 9 TD/9 INT I think it is totally valid to quote this number and is not cherry picking. However, I think it is also fair to contextualize this by saying Carr's main weapons going into the season were Ruggs (Deep Threat), Waller (All round Unicorn), Jacobs (Punishing runner) and Renfrow (Chain mover) but Carr has not had the support he might have expected from these guys... Ruggs - Only played half a season (no further discussion about the "incident" required) Waller - missed half the season but even before that was not playing at 2019/2020 levels Jacobs - finally turned up against the Broncos (in Week 16!) Renfrow - Money Truth is Carr's TD / Int ratio has not been good but over the last half of the season (Renfrow aside) has been making do with Jackson (a 35 year old deep threat), Zay Jones (has been a career journeyman at best) and Edwards (who despite having a TO-like frame has catched only a whopping 55% of his targets). I suppose I am saying this feels more like a stat that is relevant to the team as a whole rather than just Carr - though there have been a couple of interceptions that were wholly on Carr as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Heart of Oak said: I think it is totally valid to quote this number and is not cherry picking. However, I think it is also fair to contextualize this by saying Carr's main weapons going into the season were Ruggs (Deep Threat), Waller (All round Unicorn), Jacobs (Punishing runner) and Renfrow (Chain mover) but Carr has not had the support he might have expected from these guys... Ruggs - Only played half a season (no further discussion about the "incident" required) Waller - missed half the season but even before that was not playing at 2019/2020 levels Jacobs - finally turned up against the Broncos (in Week 16!) Renfrow - Money Truth is Carr's TD / Int ratio has not been good but over the last half of the season (Renfrow aside) has been making do with Jackson (a 35 year old deep threat), Zay Jones (has been a career journeyman at best) and Edwards (who despite having a TO-like frame has catched only a whopping 55% of his targets). I suppose I am saying this feels more like a stat that is relevant to the team as a whole rather than just Carr - though there have been a couple of interceptions that were wholly on Carr as well. He has also lost 5 fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: And Renfrow needs 8 receptions to tie the single season franchise record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Oak Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: He has also lost 5 fumbles. And... I am not debating that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Heart of Oak said: And... I am not debating that. 9 TD/14 turnovers over a 9 game stretch is pretty damn terrible. But as you said it's not just reflective of Carr, rather our whole team. Some of the picks came as a result of Carr trying to force the ball down the field in key moments but guys just didn't get open. Some of his fumbles have been him getting hit from the blind side trying to extend a play. Overall he hasn't been great but has made plays when it mattered over the last month so there's not much more you can ask him to do considering our offensive personnel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 9 TD/14 turnovers over a 9 game stretch is pretty damn terrible. But as you said it's not just reflective of Carr, rather our whole team. Some of the picks came as a result of Carr trying to force the ball down the field in key moments but guys just didn't get open. Some of his fumbles have been him getting hit from the blind side trying to extend a play. Overall he hasn't been great but has made plays when it mattered over the last month so there's not much more you can ask him to do considering our offensive personnel. Maybe but many are bad throws. The two picks yesterday where on Carr. He underthrew DJax who had a step on the defender and threw into quadruple coverage on the second. The DJax pick bothered me because he is still underthrowing his deep balls. He was doing it with Ruggs also. The second int is one of those brain fart moments he should not have even attempted the throw. It was a great play by Leonard also. Carr was locked on to Jones and Leonard breaks towards him before Carr starts to throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: That extra game gonna give the record to carr lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: if there was ever a game for Derek Carr get up for in his career, it's this one This is basically, his first playoff game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: That extra game gonna give the record to carr lol and the record to Kupp for receptions and yards. Did people not realize this would happen to every stat? 1000 yards was relevant in a 12 game season. . . Im not sure why we use it as a milestone these days. 59 yards a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I honestly don't feel good about this. I will feel better if Waller is back but still don't expect us to win. We just have distraction after distraction after distraction after distraction with this damn team this year. To me, that makes it very hard to be optimistic. I just hope they surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: 9 TD/14 turnovers over a 9 game stretch is pretty damn terrible. But as you said it's not just reflective of Carr, rather our whole team. Some of the picks came as a result of Carr trying to force the ball down the field in key moments but guys just didn't get open. Some of his fumbles have been him getting hit from the blind side trying to extend a play. Overall he hasn't been great but has made plays when it mattered over the last month so there's not much more you can ask him to do considering our offensive personnel. Dam 9/14 glad we have defense and special teams that’s not even counting Josh’s fumbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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