ArcticNorseman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: I just don’t get the Bieniemy love. Remember when Brad Childress was asked if Mike Tomlin was going to leave the Vikings for a college HC job and Childress said "He won't be a HC in college"? How did he, and apparently most NFL owners, know this about Tomlin? We need the guy the media doesn't peddle to the masses. I do agree some of the "hot names" are intriguing. But until a GM is hired, I think coaches are on the back burner. If we could get a Mike Tomlin type, I'd be ok with that😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, AP_allday2869 said: Me either. He doesn't even call plays, right? No thanks. In my opinion, we can't even risk hiring a coach that has never had play calling duties. I don't want another Klint Kubiak or John DeFillipo It’s not even about the lack of play calling, for me. Bieniemy constantly gets brought up because of how successful the Chiefs offense has been. But I’m very hesitant to give Bieniemy much of the credit. We all know that Andy Reid is the architect of that offense, but even Mike Kafka is listed as the passing game coordinator. So, what is Bieniemy responsible for? Bieniemy is a former running back, who’s only ever coached the running back position. I have zero reason to believe that is Bieniemy we’re put in charge of a team he’d A.) choose to be a pass oriented team, or B.) would have success creating a pass oriented offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Good luck Vikings fans. Spielman and Zimmer had an OK run, but it was probably the correct call by the Wilfs to move on from both of them. I hope the new regime finally gets you to the promised land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: It’s not even about the lack of play calling, for me. Bieniemy constantly gets brought up because of how successful the Chiefs offense has been. But I’m very hesitant to give Bieniemy much of the credit. We all know that Andy Reid is the architect of that offense, but even Mike Kafka is listed as the passing game coordinator. So, what is Bieniemy responsible for? Bieniemy is a former running back, who’s only ever coached the running back position. I have zero reason to believe that is Bieniemy we’re put in charge of a team he’d A.) choose to be a pass oriented team, or B.) would have success creating a pass oriented offense. I agree. Same could be said for Byron Leftwich. Worried about him as his name started really coming up with the success of Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just going to post these here as two sources of potential GM names. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-gm-candidates-watch-nflwk-15-2021-2022/ https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notebook-top-gm-candidates-entering-2022-plus-head-coaching-options-for-jaguars/ I'm agreeing with @SemperFeist that Ed Dodds, AGM of the Colts, is an interesting candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 It will be interesting to see how much of the scouting department is retained. A new general manager is going to want a lot of his guys in there, I would assume. However, with the college All-Star games and combine coming up fairly soon, this process is going to have to move quickly. I think we will see a lot of turnover in the scouting department after the draft is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, RpMc said: Per PA, Wilfs were in tears during these convos. Thank you for sharing the human element to this situation. Firing a coaching staff and GM had to be damn difficult. I know they had to move on, but it ain’t easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Brian Daboll Dan Quinn Brian Flores Nathaniel Hackett Denis Allen My short list, no specific order. I like Daboll and Hacket, probably Flores, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: It will be interesting to see how much of the scouting department is retained. A new general manager is going to want a lot of his guys in there, I would assume. However, with the college All-Star games and combine coming up fairly soon, this process is going to have to move quickly. I think we will see a lot of turnover in the scouting department after the draft is over. That’s usually how it always works. Although scouting departments don’t change as much as people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, vikingsrule said: I mean Zimmer has been the longest tenured head coach without a ring. Same with Spielman. Not much reason to believe they cared about fielding a super bowl winner vs keeping competitive. Just because they wanted to give them a chance to build off of a playoff win and have them another chance after a messed up covid year doesn't mean they don't care about winning a super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: I just don’t get the Bieniemy love. 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: It’s not even about the lack of play calling, for me. Bieniemy constantly gets brought up because of how successful the Chiefs offense has been. But I’m very hesitant to give Bieniemy much of the credit. We all know that Andy Reid is the architect of that offense, but even Mike Kafka is listed as the passing game coordinator. So, what is Bieniemy responsible for? Bieniemy is a former running back, who’s only ever coached the running back position. I have zero reason to believe that is Bieniemy we’re put in charge of a team he’d A.) choose to be a pass oriented team, or B.) would have success creating a pass oriented offense. I personally don't have any issue with the "play-calling" type situation. I just think people like to chase after that Reid coaching tree of late. When you are currently thinking offense in the NFL so many people lead to Andy Reids Chiefs. After what we saw these past couple years this offense probably could use an offensive minded coach, or at least a HC that's open to just let the OC call the plays. Creativity, and being flexible in this offense could open it up. Maybe he is also just one of those "good coaches" also. I really wouldn't be upset with the hire at all. Young coach that could be along for the ride for a long time if he does work out. I think that is something everyone is looking for, its just hard to catch. “One thing I’ve learned from coach is to always remain flexible. In order to expand, you always want to stay a step or two ahead of everyone and what they’re thinking around the league. And so, that’s been one thing that I love – the creativity and the conversations that we have, and just the way we study, we approach things, and we piece it together.” - Eric Bieniemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vikesfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: I feel like someplace like that would be a good place for Spielman to go to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 Giants be a new Spielman home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, vikesfan89 said: I feel like someplace like that would be a good place for Spielman to go to Would make perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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