RaidersAreOne Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) With one game left he has 99 receptions, 1,025 receiving yards and 7 TDs. Edited January 5, 2022 by RaidersAreOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I rank him as number 1 in my heart. In all seriousness, while he’s obviously not the fastest, strongest or tallest, he makes up for that by being an outrageously good route runner. He’s almost always open and he hardly ever drops the ball or fumbles. Renfrow is exceptional and my favorite Raider in years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I think top 30ish is about right, though he may be a little outside of that bracket. One of those dudes who has production that may always be slightly better than where people would take him / rank him on just an eval level. I think comping him to Edelman in terms of the production / how they are perceived is a pretty good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 He is a limited player, but what he does do is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 He’s Cooper Kupp lite, to me. I like him a lot. I just think there is a ton of very good receivers in the league, most with a higher ceiling, but if I’m banking on production going into 2022 then I’ll take Renfrow in the top 20 for sure, perhaps just outside the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I haven't done a deep dive on it but I'd be surprised if there are 30 better WR's. I wouldn't be that surprised if there aren't even 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Maybe top 20? idk. Definitely not top 5 or top 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Part of that is just volume, but he's still a good receiver. Not close to top 30 imo in talent though. I wouldn't take him over any of the Bengals top 3 of Chase, Higgins, or Boyd. He can be a WR4 on any team, a WR3 on most teams, and a good/solid WR2 on about half to 2/3 the teams. If he's your WR1, then your WR room is in dire need of help. Production wise he'll be much higher than that, but that goes back to volume and other available options for the Raiders. Had Ruggs not been a complete dumbass, the Raiders were just fine with him as WR2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 He has a very specific skillset that he performs very well. The further he goes downfield, the less his skillset advantages him over corners (however, he does have really good ball skills for his size). Without looking, I think he's in that 20-30 range. You definitely would want to pair with with players to open up the offense downfield, players the Raiders currently do not have. I think his numbers this year have been helped by the proliferation of 2-high looks and injuries to Darren Waller. I think you typically wouldn't want a player like him to have as big a role in the offense as he has had this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I think there’s definitely 20 some odd receivers that I’d rather have, which puts him in a pretty big following group. Chase, Diggs, Hill, AJ Brown, Julio, Allen, Cooper, McLaurin, Adams, Jefferson, Thielen, Evans, Godwin, MT, Moore, Kupp, Nuk, Lockett, DK, Ridley, and Deebo, are all players I think I’d put above Renfrow rather comfortably. And that leaves off a ton of good players, players you might expect to bounce back, or players you expect to progress, like Marquise Brown, Higgins, Landry, OBJ, Woods, Mike Williams, Robinson, Golladay, Lamb, Gallup, Parker, Davis, Pittman, Sutton, or Jeudy. Lots of talent going around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 9:40 AM, Bullet Club said: I haven't done a deep dive on it but I'd be surprised if there are 30 better WR's. I wouldn't be that surprised if there aren't even 20. If you deep dive, I think you'd be surprised at how you could justify getting him closer to 50 than 30, tbh. His career is pretty similar to Christian Kirk's. It can be highly subjective. Like, Allen Robinson was awful this year. Is it just a bad year or an actual decline? Would you take Allen Robinson over Renfrow? Would you blame someone for going the other way? Courtland Sutton, MIchael Gallup...these are guys who's careers have had some pretty comparable production with some of the order re arranged. What about up and coming guys who haven't quite broken out yet? Brandon Aiyuk's first two years are pretty similar to Renfrow's...who are you picking? Would you blame someone for going the other way? Jerry Jeudy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Forge said: If you deep dive, I think you'd be surprised at how you could justify getting him closer to 50 than 30, tbh. His career is pretty similar to Christian Kirk's. It can be highly subjective. Like, Allen Robinson was awful this year. Is it just a bad year or an actual decline? Would you take Allen Robinson over Renfrow? Would you blame someone for going the other way? Courtland Sutton, MIchael Gallup...these are guys who's careers have had some pretty comparable production with some of the order re arranged. What about up and coming guys who haven't quite broken out yet? Brandon Aiyuk's first two years are pretty similar to Renfrow's...who are you picking? Would you blame someone for going the other way? Jerry Jeudy? I suppose that's fair. When you actually go through it the league is deeper at WR than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 no order: Solidly above Kupp Adams Jefferson Chase Samuel Diggs Hill Evans Godwin Higgins Allen Lockett Metcalf AJ Brown Lamb Cooper McLaurin Thielen Hopkins Diontae Johnson So for me if we're being as gracious as possible he's 21st. But frankly he's probably already peaked and there are guys like Devonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle who will pass him next year and also a handful of guys in the same tier that could be in any order with him in the mix. Top 30 probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Danger said: no order: Solidly above Kupp Adams Jefferson Chase Samuel Diggs Hill Evans Godwin Higgins Allen LockettIt's Metcalf AJ Brown Lamb Cooper McLaurin Thielen Hopkins Diontae Johnson So for me if we're being as gracious as possible he's 21st. But frankly he's probably already peaked and there are guys like Devonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle who will pass him next year and also a handful of guys in the same tier that could be in any order with him in the mix. Top 30 probably. It's amazing he's even being mentioned with these guys. He's never going to be an elite deep threat or RZ monster, but as long as he remains elite at winning 1 on 1s on 3rd down, it's more than good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He's certainly having a banner year! Before the 2021 season began his ADPs were in the 80s and 90s among WRs. Now? DVOA:9th, PFF:12th, FPPG:24th. I'd put him in the top 15 this year. Can he do it again in 2022, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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