wcblack34 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, swede700 said: Let's just say, as the roster exists right now (obviously, it'll change with free agency and the draft, but what would be the starting defense? LDE: NT: RDE: OLB (Joker): ILB (Will): ILB (Mike): OLB (Sam): CB1: SS: FS: CB2: Assuming no re-signed FA's maybe LDE: Pierce NT: Tomlinson RDE: Lynch/Willekes OLB (Joker): Hunter ILB (Will): Surratt ILB (Mike): Kendricks OLB (Sam): Wonnum CB1: Dantzler SS: Bynum FS: Smith CB2: Boyd Barr could be SAM. Sheldon might be a good RDE. Most of my front 7 spots were based on height/weight/body type. Our inside LBs are small. But Kendricks is a player. He'll adapt. We're going to have to find a couple bigger bodies though. I feel more confident that we can cobble together a solid front 7 with what we currently have than I am in our ability to field a secondary with what's on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, swede700 said: Let's just say, as the roster exists right now (obviously, it'll change with free agency and the draft, but what would be the starting defense? LDE: Armon Watts NT: Michael Pierce RDE: Dalvin Tomlinson OLB (Joker): DJ Wonnum ILB (Will): Troy Dye ILB (Mike): Eric Kendricks OLB (Sam): Danielle Hunter CB1: Cameron Dantzler SS: Harrison Smith FS: Cam Bynum CB2: Harrison Hand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 2:43 PM, battle2heaven said: LDE: Armon Watts NT: Michael Pierce RDE: Dalvin Tomlinson OLB (Joker): DJ Wonnum ILB (Will): Troy Dye ILB (Mike): Eric Kendricks OLB (Sam): Danielle Hunter CB1: Cameron Dantzler SS: Harrison Smith FS: Cam Bynum CB2: Harrison Hand I think Blake Lynch would start over Dye. Dye might be lucky to make the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 2:21 PM, swede700 said: Let's just say, as the roster exists right now (obviously, it'll change with free agency and the draft, but what would be the starting defense? LDE: - Lynch / Watts NT: - Pierce RDE: - Tomlinson OLB (Joker): - Wonnum ILB (Will): Kendricks ILB (Mike): Barr / Lynch OLB (Sam): Hunter (assuming healthy) CB1: Dantzler SS: - Smith FS: - Bynum CB2: - Peterson (assuming re-signed) Lynch / Watts comes off in the nickel (non pass rush), Pierce comes off on pass rushing downs. Harrison Hand or Bynum in the nickel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, RpMc said: Lynch / Watts comes off in the nickel (non pass rush), Pierce comes off on pass rushing downs. Harrison Hand or Bynum in the nickel. Sorry, I don't follow. Who would replace Lynch/Watts and Pierce in the pass rush situations? Would you shift Tomlinson to NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: Sorry, I don't follow. Who would replace Lynch/Watts and Pierce in the pass rush situations? Would you shift Tomlinson to NT? Obvious pass situations you could get your best four pass rushers out there as you’ll likely be in a four down style of alignment (under or boss front most likely) if it’s a medium distance third down, Pierce comes out (doesn’t have to if you like him as a pass rusher) nickel goes in and the then you’ve got two of Tomlinson/Watts/Lynch playing the 3 and shade with Hunter/Wonnum on the edge. Edited February 24, 2022 by RpMc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 20 hours ago, NoDakViking said: I think Blake Lynch would start over Dye. Dye might be lucky to make the team. I don't think Dye or Surratt are good fits. I really want to see Pat Jones find a role. Same with Twyman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Quote Donatell said that the team will use both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts and that “everything we do will make it hard” on quarterbacks. Donatell said he believes Hunter can play both defensive end and outside linebacker as needed in those multiple looks. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/24/ed-donatell-sees-danielle-hunter-as-a-defensive-end-outside-linebacker-in-his-scheme/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1. I loved the energy that Donatell spoke with. Energy like that is contagious, and this team needs it. 2. I liked how he mentioned takeaways as being an important aspect of the defense. That was always my biggest gripe with Zimmer’s approach. This team didn’t force enough turnovers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Hearing Donatell talk about ball skills as a desired trait in a DB, it makes me think that with a coach like him this team would have drafted players like Marcus Peters and Trevon Diggs over guys like Trae Waynes and Jeff Gladney. 😔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: I don't think Dye or Surratt are good fits. I really want to see Pat Jones find a role. Same with Twyman. The Surratt pick has always baffled me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 50 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: The Surratt pick has always baffled me. Yeah for him to not even sniff the field is pretty bad. Maybe he transitions to Safety? His testing #s were ok but he's light and may never catch on in a role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) On 2/22/2022 at 2:43 PM, battle2heaven said: LDE: Armon Watts NT: Michael Pierce RDE: Dalvin Tomlinson OLB (Joker): DJ Wonnum ILB (Will): Troy Dye ILB (Mike): Eric Kendricks OLB (Sam): Danielle Hunter CB1: Cameron Dantzler SS: Harrison Smith FS: Cam Bynum CB2: Harrison Hand LDE: Armon Watts / James Lynch NT: Dalvin Tomlinson / Jordon Scott RDE: Michael Pierce / Jalen Twyman OLB (Joker): DJ Wonnum / Kenny Willekes ILB (Will): Nakobe Dean / Chazz Surratt ILB (Mike): Eric Kendricks / Blake Lynch/ Troy Dye OLB (Sam): Danielle Hunter / Janarious Robinson Ideal would be Troy Dye is totally out and they have Brandon Smith, Chad Muma or Troy Andersen at that other ILB spot which would bring some great versatility to the position, even Devin Lloyd or Damone Clark I would not mind at that ILB spot either and arguably Muma, Smith, Andersen and Lloyd could bring some pass rush potential as well. All in the 2nd possibly. Or if one goes Dean 1st round then they could address CB maybe 2nd. That would totally switch that defense around and make it decent but only really if Hunter is there to provide the elite edge rushing ability. Muma could be long gone though but they got a shot at Smith, Andersen, Lloyd or Clark possibly. Clark would be a big body compared to the rest with long arms but he can run and plays faster than he looks. Andersen would provide elite range and coverage, same with Smith and Muma. Lynch might actually be better in a 3/4, and I would have Tomlinson as the NT not Pierce personally. That CB group would be freaking rough so that is a must draft a CB high but Gardner and Stingley are most likely long gone so they could be screwed. Harrison Hand not sure he has shown anything to prove he is a starting corner, same for Cam for that matter, Breeland at times was better than him and Breeland was pretty bad. Edited February 25, 2022 by Ozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Right now I have the Vikings getting Derion Kendrick in the 2nd and Marcus Jones in the 3rd round. Get your outside corner possibly and a slot corner since Stingley and Gardner are both gone. Would not mind Booth or Taylor-Britt in the 2nd but have them being picked already, and Marcus Jones has great toughness and big time athletic ability in the slot. Will be a tough call because one could miss out on some edge rushers in that 2nd and 3rd round with Myjai Sanders, Sam Williams Tyree Johnson and DeAngelo Malone. All depends on if they are keeping Hunter or not because if not that is a massive problem without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: LDE: Armon Watts / James Lynch NT: Dalvin Tomlinson / Jordon Scott RDE: Michael Pierce / Jalen Twyman OLB (Joker): DJ Wonnum / Kenny Willekes ILB (Will): Nakobe Dean / Chazz Surratt ILB (Mike): Eric Kendricks / Blake Lynch/ Troy Dye OLB (Sam): Danielle Hunter / Janarious Robinson Ideal would be Troy Dye is totally out and they have Brandon Smith, Chad Muma or Troy Andersen at that other ILB spot which would bring some great versatility to the position, even Devin Lloyd or Damone Clark I would not mind at that ILB spot either and arguably Muma, Smith, Andersen and Lloyd could bring some pass rush potential as well. All in the 2nd possibly. Or if one goes Dean 1st round then they could address CB maybe 2nd. That would totally switch that defense around and make it decent but only really if Hunter is there to provide the elite edge rushing ability. Muma could be long gone though but they got a shot at Smith, Andersen, Lloyd or Clark possibly. Clark would be a big body compared to the rest with long arms but he can run and plays faster than he looks. Andersen would provide elite range and coverage, same with Smith and Muma. Lynch might actually be better in a 3/4, and I would have Tomlinson as the NT not Pierce personally. That CB group would be freaking rough so that is a must draft a CB high but Gardner and Stingley are most likely long gone so they could be screwed. Harrison Hand not sure he has shown anything to prove he is a starting corner, same for Cam for that matter, Breeland at times was better than him and Breeland was pretty bad. Also love Clark if they can get him in the 2nd after going corner in the 1st. How about Luketa for that other OLB spot? He played some edge and some stack LB so I think he could kill in that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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