Official 2022 Draft Discussion

[Nex_Gen]

I see four very specific scenarios how Day 1 shapes out.

1. Trade Out - Death, taxes and this.

2. OL - Not going to be sexy at all and Patriot fans will loathe this, but if they were to play a game tomorrow, the biggest absolute need on this roster is another starting OL (or two). I hope it's a Tackle. Guards can be found later and Tackles cannot. This may also allow Wynn to kick inside where he should be.

3. Defensive Georgia player - I got a feeling we'll end up with a few of these in this draft.

4. Dax Hill - I'm convinced he's as similar a prospect as McCourty was and I think Bill sees the same thing. Only this time Dax is molded the other way at CB. 

 

[DoleINGout]

1 hour ago, Crimmage said:

Jonnu isn't going anywhere my friend 

they ate it on Shaq. What's to say they might not eat it on Jonnu too. unlikel? a little, but imo definitely a possibility.

[DoleINGout]

1 hour ago, Crimmage said:

Guadchaux could be a surprise camp cut / trade too

Definite possibility as well, I consider him an option for trade too.

[m haynes]

1 hour ago, Nex_Gen said:

This may also allow Wynn to kick inside where he should be.

You can forget that ever happening. Wynn would hold out and the agent would go nuts. LT where the moneys at  and Wynn is going to be FA. $ suicide!!!

[m haynes]

1 hour ago, Crimmage said:

Jonnu isn't going anywhere my friend 

To bad I can't wait til he's out of here. I hated the signing.

@DoleINGout makes a good point with TE. We only have two on the roster. The other are useless. Two bust in one draft!!!! 

I haven't looked much at TE but I do love Trey McBride. Does BB have the balls to take him in 2nd RD!!! The other TE I like is Jake Ferguson. Forget the UCLA kid waste of  pick.

Trey McBride reminds me of Cooper Kupp playing TE.

[m haynes]

I mentioned earlier trading Harris. So I looked at what I have on RBs.

IMO  a great RB gives me 4 yards. I don't care about anything else running the ball. Break away speed don't care!!!

Cory Dillon was a perfect back. 

Guys listed are RB that will go later in the draft starting in the 4th. 

1. Hassan Haskins --------   I might even go as high as 3rd for him, if we trade Harris during the draft.

Hassan Haskins || 2021 Season Highlights || - YouTube

2. Tyrion Davis-Price

Tyrion Davis-Price Junior Season Highlights-LSU RB - YouTube

3. Eric Gray   ------- I like Sooner RBs  !!!!!!!!😁

Eric Gray || Oklahoma Sooners Running Back || 2021 Junior Highlights - YouTube

4. Zonovan Knight

Zonovan Knight NC State RB Career Highlights || Bam Knight - YouTube

5.  Snoop Conners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7NbSXX4ZY

6. Ty Chandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xtGYZh8aYs

7.  Tyler Goodson  ------ Little small but he is Steve's backup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQQEMglJDcc

8. Sincere McCormick  ------  MY sleeper. I love this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzmpvZujI1o

Sincere McCormick UTSA RB short power catcb ball 6/7

 

 

[Nex_Gen]

1 hour ago, m haynes said:

You can forget that ever happening. Wynn would hold out and the agent would go nuts. LT where the moneys at  and Wynn is going to be FA. $ suicide!!!

I'm not sure Wynn has shown enough consistency to leverage a big contract from anyone, but with the way crappy teams overpay in FA these days, I wouldn't be surprised. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Nex_Gen

[DoleINGout]

8 hours ago, m haynes said:

Does BB have the balls to take him in 2nd RD!!!

Absolutely. You can almost sniff it, can't you?

Ferg, Kolar, Ruckert, and Turner are the other TE's I see fit.

Edited April 13, 2022 by DoleINGout

[DoleINGout]

On 4/9/2022 at 1:39 PM, DoleINGout said:

here is my pool of players i think the pats are likeliest to choose from. i am not as into the draft this year as previous years and i am going off of a scouting magazine rather than having actually seen any of these guys play which is a big change for me as well. i usually dont go with magazines but s year that is as much as i have committed. im interested to see how this turns out, as always.

 

patriots draft picks

name - school - position - round (magazine rankings)

 

ikem ekwonu nc state ol 1

travon walker georgia de/olb 1

garrett wilson ohio state wr 1

trent mcduffie washington cb 1

kenyon green texas a&m ol 1

tyler linderbaum iowa iol 1

chris olave ohio state wr 1

martin emerson jr miss state fs/cb 1/2

jermaine johnson ii florida state olb/de 1/2

cameron thomas san diego state de 1/2

jahan dotson penn state wr 2

david bell purdue wr 2

justin ross clemson wr 2

john metchie iii alabama wr 2

trey mcbride colorado state te 2/3

logan hall houston de/dt 2/3

sam howell north carolina qb 2/3

kyren williams notre dame rb/kr 2/3

jeremy ruckert ohio state te 2/3

isaiah spiller texas a&m rb 2/3

phidarian mathis alabama dt 2/3

james cook georgia wr/rb 2/3

quay walker georgia lb 2/3

zion johnson bc ol 2/3

dylan parham memphis ol 2/3

tyler allegier byu rb 3

marcus jones houston cb/kr 3/4

coby bryant cincinnati cb 3/4

dominique robinson miami (oh) olb/de 3/4

charlie kolar iowa state te 3/4

myjai sanders cincinnati de/olb 3/4

troy anderson montana state lb 3/4

thayer munford ohio state ol 3/4

jesse luketa penn state lb 3/4

khalil shakir boise state wr 3/4

alec lindstrom bc iol 3/4

charleston rambo miami (oh) wr 3/4

max mitchell louisiana ot 3/4

jaivon heiligh costal carolina wr 4/5

calvin austin iii memphis wr/kr 4/5

josh paschal kentucky de 4/5

zyon mccollum sam houston cb/st 4.5

jamaree salyer georgia ol 4/5

luke goedeke central michigan ol 4/5

rashaad white arizona state rb 4/5

danny gray smu wr 4/5

jalen nailor michigan state wr 4/5

sincere mccormick utsa rb 4/5

tre turner virginia tech wr 4/5

eyioma uwazurike iowa state dt/de 5/6

john ridgeway arkansas dt 5/6

nick zakelj fordham ol 5/6

james empey byu iol 5/6

max borghi washington state wr/rb/st 5/6

labryan ray alabama dt 5/6

velus jones jr tennessee wr/kr 5/6

jake ferguson wisconsin te 5/6

tyler goodson iowa rb 5/6

jack coan notre dame qb 5/6

deven thompkins utah state wr/kr 5/6

abrahm smith baylor rb 5/6

cj verdell oregon rb 5/6

pierre strong jr south dakota state rb/kr 5/6

cole turner nevada te 5/6

reggie roberson smu wr 5/6

christopher hinton michigan dt 6/7

tyrion davis-price lsu rb 6/7

zach tom wake forest ol 6/7

emeka emezie nc state wr 6/7

ben brown ole miss ol 6/7

bo melton rutgers wr/st 6/7

jerreth sterns wku wr 7/udfa

@m haynes

[DoleINGout]

7 hours ago, m haynes said:

mentioned earlier trading Harris. So I looked at what I have on RBs.

I think it would be likely too this off-season if not for the friendship with Mac. I think Harris is still a productive guy and good teammate who helps Mac so I see Harris as much less likely to be traded than the other people mentioned; Agholor, Harry, Wynn, Jonnu, Jones, or Godchaux.

[Crimmage]

I'm not sure you'll get value for Harris.. he's very good and underrated in this league. They got a 4th and 6th  for Sony.. I kind of doubt you'd get much more than that just because the RB position isn't though highly of. 

 

If he does well and gets paid next year.. maybe you get a 4th round comp for him? If you get a day 2 pick I'd be more inclined to trade him even if I do love the guy as a player.. he feels like a perfect Patriot. I'm really curious as to if there even is a price that BB would keep him or if he just wants rookie money at RB forever. 

[Crimmage]

@m haynesThoughts on Nick Cross? 

 

I haven't watched any tape on him yet but from a pure athletic standpoint he's very comparable to Dax Hill. People are mocking him in the 70-90 range and just based off his measuables that seems like insane value. 

 

If they do decide to go OL in the first, could you see him as a Dax Hill consolation prize in the 3rd? 

[m haynes]

5 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

@m haynes

I looked at Coke Cola and Ruckerts.

Cola    he look good on film but writes basically say he's soft. I don't see it but it is a highlight vid.

Ruckert impossible to judge him on Vids.  He's wide open on every play.  I did read an article that said he's should of chose another college, to show his skills.

State doesn't use TE much in passing game.

Will look at a few later. Wife has me doing the Frigging Flower beds!!!!

[m haynes]

5 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

I think it would be likely too this off-season if not for the friendship with Mac. I think Harris is still a productive guy and good teammate who helps Mac so I see Harris as much less likely to be traded than the other people mentioned; Agholor, Harry, Wynn, Jonnu, Jones, or Godchaux.

I like Harris but if they are worried about Mac we are all in trouble.  Good business is a trade. Unless you have understanding with Harris about staying, if not you you a wasting an asset the can help the future.  He traded Milloy I don't see why Harris is not available to trade.

 

[m haynes]

1 hour ago, Crimmage said:

@m haynesThoughts on Nick Cross? 

 

I haven't watched any tape on him yet but from a pure athletic standpoint he's very comparable to Dax Hill. People are mocking him in the 70-90 range and just based off his measuables that seems like insane value. 

 

If they do decide to go OL in the first, could you see him as a Dax Hill consolation prize in the 3rd? 

I have no idea with this guy.  The eye test, things I see. tough, looks like a bowling ball, a little stiff in the hips, but he can play but it's difficult to say he worth a 3rd. the later the Rd the better choice if you take him. His numbers shocked me, everything but speed, straight line he looks fast. He has a play in his HL vid where he flies to the side line to help make a play. Every time I hear his name that play comes  (peanut) brain. Great play but ugly as heck.

He's like Leo Chenal. Very ugly but with good numbers. Ugly looking not his game.