Dessie Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Rolni said: I think Ferrell is not an ideal fit for this D as a RDE, but he could play there and might surprise us... Ferrell has the height and length IMO for the role. He is 6'4 34 and 1/4 arms with 10 and 1/2 hands. Bilal Nichols for example is 6'4 with 33 and 1/2 arms and 10 and 1/4 hands. Maxx Crosby is a bit taller at 6'5 but has shorter arms and smaller hands. We talk about The Condor here! Christian Wilkins who plays RDE for Miami in base D is 6'4 with only 32 and 1/2 arms and 9 and 3/4 hands. Leonard Williams who played this RDE role for PG with the Giants is 6'5 with 34 and 3/4 arms with 10 and 3/4 hands, so he is definately bigger and longer, but as you can see Ferrell is longer a bit like Nichols or Wilkins for example. Obviously length is not the only criteria for the role, but if you count in that Ferrell was regarded a really strong DE coming out from Clemson at 265 and his biggest strenght was run D early on he just might be able to play the position for us if he can get up around 280-290 pounds. He was reportedly up to 275 in his second year with us, so I think it is possible for him to get above 280-290 with a full offseason of strength program and proper diet. At 6'4 290 with his long arms, he might be able to play that RDE role for us in base and some DT in nickel, what he already done before. As of now, he wouldn't be viewed as a quality starter by the media or by us fans, but with this new staff and with this new scheme he might surprise us. With the players we currently have under contract I would expect Nichols to be the LDT, Billings to be the NT and Ferrell to be the RDE. With that said I think Nichols best position with us would be RDE and I would welcome Hankins back to LDT before I would put Ferrell in at RDE. I think a Nichols-Billings-Hankins trio would be better then the Ferrell-Billings-Nichols. Then again we can't be too sure about Billings as a starter neither, so I would be really cautious with any projection at this point in time. Hopefully we bring in a few veterans to the DL in the upcoming days... I just don’t see the fit for Ferrell as a 3-4 DE under Grahams scheme. I think he’s more likely to lose weight and be a rotational DE behind Crosby and Jones with Koonce. If we don’t re-sign Hankins, then players like Gholston, Nnadi or Jarran Reed might be better fits for the DL. If Donta Hightower remains unsigned I wonder how much he would cost and if Graham would make a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If Simpson starts then the Raiders are already in trouble. He’s not a starter. Have to do better then that. In reality he should be nothing more then a back up. He’s not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If that is the mentality going in, we will still need some depth at OG and RT. I agree that Simpson is just not that good, we should bring in legit competition for the OG spot and an RT insurance policy in case Leatherwood flops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 DT is mid tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:04 AM, Dessie said: I just don’t see the fit for Ferrell as a 3-4 DE under Grahams scheme. I think he’s more likely to lose weight and be a rotational DE behind Crosby and Jones with Koonce. If we don’t re-sign Hankins, then players like Gholston, Nnadi or Jarran Reed might be better fits for the DL. If Donta Hightower remains unsigned I wonder how much he would cost and if Graham would make a move. I didn’t even know this but Rashaan Evans is a free agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Some thing I didn’t even think about until right now: what if they actually think that leather one can hold it down it right tackle this year. That would be scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If Abram is not moved, I want to see him at sub package LB. His impact is pretty much all around the LOS and he's a decent blitzer too. We should try someone else at safety. Gillespie I have more confidence in than Abram based on college despite him being an unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 7:20 PM, Humble_Beast said: QB Carr Gilbert RB Jacobs Drake Bolden Ragas Abdullah FB Johnson Smith WR Adams Hollins J Wims WR Edwards T Johnson Stoner Slot Renfrow Turner TE Waller Moreau Bowers LT Miller B Parker LG Leatherwood Simpson Cotton C James Grasu B Heggie RG Good Bars Seymour Meredith RT Eluemunor W Sweet Barton DE Crosby Ferrell Green UT Vickers PJ Johnson NT Nichols Billings DE C Jones Koonce WLB Deablo MLB Perryman Kiser SLB Fackrell March-Lillard CB Rock Averett LeBlanc CB Mullen Phillips Slot Hobbs Robertson FS Moehrig Leavitt Teamer J Brown SS Abram Gillespie Jamerson K Carlson P Cole LS Sieg updated 3-21 Fackrell - will compete to be starting SLB. B Parker- signed to be LT2 Gilbert - compete for backup QB3.... camp body Kiser- former starter on the Rams, much needed depth in the LB Unit Eluemunor- more of a needed depth piece on the right side I like almost all the moves, added much needed depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 I hope we attack DT unit next, let we did with the two LBS. could use 2 solid vets for depth. would like to bring in a 3rd safety/someone to compete with Abram another LB would be nice for depth really NEED a RT would be down for Gillmore, Honey Badger, or Trae Waynes I have interest in D Carrier, S Thomas, Philon, McCoy, Patrick O possibly being Brought back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Eleumenor will start at RT. Book it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Eleumenor will start at RT. Book it. I would competition brought in, someone who can serve as a swing tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: I would competition brought in, someone who can serve as a swing tackle Parker is a swing OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Parker is a swing OT yikes, one injury away from the nightmare of Parker at RT. Good teams invest in the trenches. There's a few average starting RT out there, wouldn't cost much either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Eleumenor will start at RT. Book it. I wouldn’t be mad at this necessarily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Eleumenor will start at RT. Book it. If he does, then the new staff sees more in him that the previous staff. They moved Leatherwood to RG because they felt Eleumenor was a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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