Ray Reed Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Gotta be honest, I felt like he ran a system that was pretty predictable, overly simplistic, and gimmicky in a way. I agree that he could pull it off when the Ravens had the CBs to execute it, but without them, he had no counter. Felt like he was a one-trick pony. It was bizarre to see his “exotic” blitzes essentially amount to guys just running into the OL at different angles and getting stonewalled, even when there was a clear path to the QB. They would just...choose to not run through the clear gap in the line. Almost every time. It was bizarre. It was like they were being coached to hit a certain spot NO MATTER WHAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dome Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: It was bizarre to see his “exotic” blitzes essentially amount to guys just running into the OL at different angles and getting stonewalled, even when there was a clear path to the QB. They would just...choose to not run through the clear gap in the line. Almost every time. It was bizarre. It was like they were being coached to hit a certain spot NO MATTER WHAT That sounds like an issue with the players not understanding fundamentals… which does fall back on the coach if he doesn’t fix it. But also if dudes are avoiding gaps to hit OL the issue is everyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: Don’t forget the seemingly uncanny ability for our defense to give up late game scores with very little time left on the clock in “stop & win” scenarios the past ~2ish years not a good one that is like trading your Lincoln in because you had a flat tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Everyone is going to be shocked by this, but Ravens fans certainly aren't. Wink was very aggressive in his style (lots of blitzing), but that style was HEAVILY masked with the quality of CB's we had on the field (Marlon and Marcus Peters). Once we lost any bit of that depth, things fell apart quickly. Furthermore, he was unable to develop or scheme any sort of edge pressure. We watched Yannick Ngakoue come to this team and be put into a role that didn't fit his play style and his production completely fell off. Then, miraculously, he goes to OAK and goes right back to what he was doing previously in JAX and MIN and even mentioned publicly that Wink's scheme didn't fit him and they didn't use him properly. We also watched Matt Judon go from "meh" to a really productive pass rusher this year, same thing with Za'Darius Smith when he left. Wink's inability to play a scheme to maximize quality edge rush talent AND the fact that our defense allowed I think the most big plays (40+) this year are what did him in ultimately. So I am happy they mutually parted ways and we're going in a new direction there. Change was definitely needed. On the bright side, y'all still have Oweh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dome said: That sounds like an issue with the players not understanding fundamentals… which does fall back on the coach if he doesn’t fix it. But also if dudes are avoiding gaps to hit OL the issue is everyone involved. You would think but when you have guys like Calais Campbell and Justin Houston doing it...idk lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Ray Reed said: You would think but when you have guys like Calais Campbell and Justin Houston doing it...idk lol Probably the THC gummy vending machine in the locker room new CBA is sick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Definitely should've been fired for that last Pittsburgh drive alone. He'll get another gig and there's worse teams could do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Dang it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I think others have already stated the why. For me, I don't think he's a bad defensive coordinator, especially looking around the league. But he's definitely predictable and inflexible when the talent isn't there to run his system to perfection. A lot of teams could do far worse at DC. And if your team has the personnel to fit his system, he very well could produce the best defense in the league, once again. That said, given the transitionary state of our defense and how things are set to move forward as we move off our our QBs rookie contract, I feel this was a move that had to be made both philosophically and foundationally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I’ve never understood why most coaches care more about their scheme than the players they have. Play to your players not your ego. It is the Achilles heel of NFL coaches and it happens every where. Coaches win with a certain style and are convinced it was a byproduct of their scheme, but fail to realize it was merely a perfect situation for them. Jim Schwartz was the king of this. As soon as our DB and LB play got bad his defense was destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I'll miss Wink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awsi Dooger Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, SkippyX said: Hiring Wink Martindale is too much of a Gambit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 So I guess Roman is the best coordinator they have on their team after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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