NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) • Daryl Williams - 1 yr/$4M • Ndamukong Suh - 1 yr/$5M • Calais Campbell - 1 yr/$6M • Zach Kerr - 1 yr/$1M • John Ross - 1 yr/$1.5M Edited March 21, 2022 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: Plus, a deal the magnitude of Carr’s extension can be done quickly, but shouldn’t be rushed if it can wait. Plus, I don’t see how Carr signing an extension reduces his ‘22 cap hit. If anything it goes up substantially. Can convert his salary this year into a signing bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We desperately need DT Luckily there are a handful of good ones still left. I think we gotta wait for the asking prices to drop though. Unfortunately I don’t see many good DTs in the draft by the time we pick in round 3. Larry Ogunjobi‘s big deal with Chicago was stopped due to a failed physical. He’s be a very nice option is he’s healthy enough to sign. He had foot surgery earlier this off-season and the Bears might have seen something that scared them given the magnitude of the deal. Maybe we’re able to take a calculated risk with a smaller, shorter contract. He had agreed to a 3yr, 40.5m with 26m guaranteed. If we could get him for 1yr, 7-8m that’d be amazing. Aside from LO there still are some solid DTs out there: Hicks, Goldman, Calais Campbell, Jarran Reed, Sheldon Richardson, Malik Jackson, NT Danny Shelton plus our own FAs Jonathan Hankins, Solomon Thomas, and Darius Philon are still out there. I suspect Philon remains unsigned until right before TC in a best case scenario for him, but in the most likely scenario he signs somewhere during the season when he’s healthy. If we’re going to play some or mostly 3-4 we need a NT. Aside from that we still need another iDL starter, IMO. Ideally, I wish we’d re-sign Hankins or sign Goldman for NT and add Campbell (I think that’s unlikely) then Sheldon Richardson. I liked Solomon Thomas’ play last year but if we’re going to play 3-4 I question if he’ll regress to his form in SF. At very least Richardson is a solid run defender for a 3T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: Luckily there are a handful of good ones still left. I think we gotta wait for the asking prices to drop though. Unfortunately I don’t see many good DTs in the draft by the time we pick in round 3. Larry Ogunjobi‘s big deal with Chicago was stopped due to a failed physical. He’s be a very nice option is he’s healthy enough to sign. He had foot surgery earlier this off-season and the Bears might have seen something that scared them given the magnitude of the deal. Maybe we’re able to take a calculated risk with a smaller, shorter contract. He had agreed to a 3yr, 40.5m with 26m guaranteed. If we could get him for 1yr, 7-8m that’d be amazing. Aside from LO there still are some solid DTs out there: Hicks, Goldman, Calais Campbell, Jarran Reed, Sheldon Richardson, Malik Jackson, NT Danny Shelton plus our own FAs Jonathan Hankins, Solomon Thomas, and Darius Philon are still out there. I suspect Philon remains unsigned until right before TC in a best case scenario for him, but in the most likely scenario he signs somewhere during the season when he’s healthy. If we’re going to play some or mostly 3-4 we need a NT. Aside from that we still need another iDL starter, IMO. Ideally, I wish we’d re-sign Hankins or sign Goldman for NT and add Campbell (I think that’s unlikely) then Sheldon Richardson. I liked Solomon Thomas’ play last year but if we’re going to play 3-4 I question if he’ll regress to his form in SF. At very least Richardson is a solid run defender for a 3T. I'm just getting a little worried about our total lack of interest in RT or DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Can convert his salary this year into a signing bonus I understand that but if you do that your going to have the remaining years have very large cap hits. Even with the cap going up we’re still going to have cap issues going forward and several players due sizeable raises. I think you have to take that 6/1 money from Littleton and Nassib and take advantage of the very low ‘22 cap figure and sign an extension with both signing bonus but also a significant roster bonus in ‘22. By 6/1 when that money becomes useable there won’t be a ton of FAs still available that we need/want. Also it’s important to note when Carr signed his extension in ‘17 we upped his cap hit on the last year of his rookie deal by giving that year a Roster Bonus that kicked in immediately so it acted like a SB but wasn’t prorated throughout the length of the contract. He received A 12.5m SB and then 7.5M RB, plus guaranteed salaries and RBs in the first 2 years. Say Carr gets 4y, 144 m (36m APY) he’ll likely get 75% guaranteed (108m) and just over 40% guaranteed at signing in the form of a SB or 1st year roster bonus (58m). we take 13M in the form of a ‘22 RB and 45m SB. We still have left from the 6/1 money to sign a FA that we need. But by having the RB in ‘22 it means we reduce his cap hits by 3.25M each year of his 4 year extension. The option you describe means making his average cap hit more then the 36m apy. It’d likely raise his cap hit into the 40m apy range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I'm just getting a little worried about our total lack of interest in RT or DT. It’s definitely concerning. But Ziegler has shown he works quietly. He very well could have things lined up to announce in the morning. I jumped down his throat already and was proven wrong so for the short term I’ll sit back and patiently wait. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, jimkelly02 said: I understand that but if you do that your going to have the remaining years have very large cap hits. Even with the cap going up we’re still going to have cap issues going forward and several players due sizeable raises. The only players who are going to get big extensions are Carr, Renfrow, and possibly Waller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, jimkelly02 said: It’s definitely concerning. But Ziegler has shown he works quietly. He very well could have things lined up to announce in the morning. I jumped down his throat already and was proven wrong so for the short term I’ll sit back and patiently wait. Lol I'm sure that they will address both spots, I think that our splash signings are done though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Some interesting names still on the market. OT: Daryl Williams, Billy Turner, Eric Fisher, Marcus Cannon, Brandon Shell OG: Trai Turner, Quinton Spain, Ereck Flowers DL: Trey Flowers, Calais Campbell, Sheldon Richardson, Akiem Hicks, Larry Ogunjobi, Star Lotulelei LB: Don't Hightower, Kyle Van Not, Jamie Collins, Anthony Barr, Kyzir White DB: Tyrann Mathieu, Stephon Gilmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 give me williams or turner and gilmore. Kearse for S throw in a DT and we looking solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edz209 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 cross collins, trent (and although i don’t think we were interested) possibly armstead off the list… interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Wouldn’t be surprised to see that post June 1st money get used to sign those older vets who don’t mind to sit out all of mini camp and OTAs. Like Campbell, Suh and Hicks to name a few. Think that’s when we will see them tie up some lose ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) I’ve always liked him. BUT WE NEED TO BLOCK Edited March 21, 2022 by Jeremy408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: • Daryl Williams - 1 yr/$4M • Ndamukong Suh - 1 yr/$5M • Calais Campbell - 1 yr/$6M • Zach Kerr - 1 yr/$1M • John Ross - 1 yr/$1.5M Lol the team can go 0-4 on trying to get Ndamukong Suh. Maybe this time is different. Gimmie Calais Campbell I still think he can be a problem maybe squeeze 1 more 7-10 sack season out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Didn't realizr Rashad Evans is a FA. I'd be all over that for LB depending on what scheme Graham has in mind. Maybe too similar to Perryman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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