Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Why do you think Kafka is the guy for us at OC if Quinn or Eberflus comes in as HC? Kafka sounds like he has potential but he could be another Matt Nagy for all we know. Reid protégé with no play calling experience... Talk is that Mike McDaniel of the 49ers could actually be Quinn's guy for us at OC due to his connection to Shanahan and both having been on Quinn's Falcons staff. Ben Albright floated this out so it's not just me speculating. If so then I would be real excited about Quinn Kafka and Quinn share an agent...Eberflus has all the connections to Poles & Ballard who obviously have a lot of connections to the Chiefs...lots of the beat guys talking about Kafka as a possibility... McDaniel could be a great hire as well...a lot of Pete Carmichael to him...great mind but I am not sure he would ever be an HC which would be a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I just get the impression they think Quinn & Eberflus offer more in terms of the overall culture... Strongly disagree here. Caldwell had the Lions of all teams in the playoffs. He made that team respectable for the 1st time in about 15 years. He's won Super Bowls with 2 organizations. He's worked with Dungy, Harbaugh, etc. Caldwell is probably more proven at building a team culture than either Quinn or Eberflus. The only downside with him is age. But if he coaches for 5-6 years and builds Fields into a superstar, the Bears won't have any trouble hiring the next coach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: Strongly disagree here. Caldwell had the Lions of all teams in the playoffs. He made that team respectable for the 1st time in about 15 years. He's won Super Bowls with 2 organizations. He's worked with Dungy, Harbaugh, etc. Caldwell is probably more proven at building a team culture than either Quinn or Eberflus. The only downside with him is age. But if he coaches for 5-6 years and builds Fields into a superstar, the Bears won't have any trouble hiring the next coach. I think that is a fair point...but also look at the fact that he went there 8 years ago...he has also been out football since 2019...there are reasons for that...he has health concerns and is 67 years old...culture is about getting amongst people and bringing energy and intensity...watch Eberflus or Quinn mic'ed up on the practice field...they are in the middle of it...Caldwell can't offer us that...as I said before if he was 10 years younger I think he would be closer to this job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, abstract_thought said: Strongly disagree here. Caldwell had the Lions of all teams in the playoffs. He made that team respectable for the 1st time in about 15 years. He's won Super Bowls with 2 organizations. He's worked with Dungy, Harbaugh, etc. Caldwell is probably more proven at building a team culture than either Quinn or Eberflus. The only downside with him is age. But if he coaches for 5-6 years and builds Fields into a superstar, the Bears won't have any trouble hiring the next coach. Agree with a lot of this. Plus with having a QB on a rookie deal like we do with Fields, you want to maximize these next few years under a rookie contract where you don't have to hand him a huge contract like the Chiefs have taken advantage of with Mahomes when they won the SB two years ago. If we hire Caldwell and he gets the best out of Fields these next few years then it won't matter if/when we need to hire a new HC if/when Caldwell decides to call it a career whether by choice or for health reasons, etc. because at that point Fields will hypothetically already be really good, which would open up potentially even better options at HC down the line. And if Fields isn't it then you start this whole process over anyways in 2-4 years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I am fine with Caldwell because I know he won't F up Fields development. I cannot waste this QB like Nagy was about to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Out of the 3 supposed finalists, for me it's 1a. Caldwell 1b. Quinn 3. Eberflus Tho I would be fine with any of these guys, specifically with the two defensive guys as long as they have a great O plan for Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 4m From NFL Now: The #Bears have two of their three finalists in the building today and a decision should be coming soon... FWIW he said the Daboll to NY should happen quick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 What's also interesting in interview with KC reporters about Poles is Kafka is getting bulk of credit for Mahomes first year when a lot of people were making that a big plus for Nagy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Maybe this is why Daboll wasn’t a quick hire… 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 4m From NFL Now: The #Bears have two of their three finalists in the building today and a decision should be coming soon... Quinn and Eberflus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, dll2000 said: Quinn and Eberflus? They are today. I do not love Caldwell's age and health. Eberflus with Caldwell as one of the highest paid OCs... yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Why are there already finalists when Poles was just hired? Shouldn't he need a bit of time? Or does he just want to go with Bears finalists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: Maybe this is why Daboll wasn’t a quick hire… 🤔 I am not sure Jones has earned this to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, dll2000 said: Why are there already finalists when Poles was just hired? Shouldn't he need a bit of time? Or does he just want to go with Bears finalists? He will have already had his ideas of who he wanted as HC... Plus all the first interviews will have been recorded so he will have those to refer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Madmike90 said: I am not sure Jones has earned this to be honest. I think that is the point. Many are calling Jones a middling QB at this point and most Giants fans want to move on I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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