Most Important Offseason Within Franchise-History: 2022.

[DefenseWinsChampionships]

I don't think we've (as a Fan Bass) ever seen anything like this before. 

Top 5 Available Salary Cap Space. 

+

The NFL's #1 ranked Draft capital. 

☆1.) We've already got our Franchise (hopeful) QB in place.

☆ 2.) Year 2000 we had 4 1st round picks where we drafted Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington and Anthony Becht @ 12, 13, 18 and 27 (along with Laveranues Coles during the 3rd round @ 78th overall). 

= 5 picks within the first 78 slots. 

vs.

2022 we've got draft picks @ 4, 10, 35, 38 and 69th.

= 5 picks within the first 69 slots. 

(2022's the first time in 52 years dating back to 1970 where we've got 4 picks within the first 40 draft slots). 

But what can potentially take this 2022 draft over the top in comparison to 2000's is that...

2000 = No 4th round picks (0) and only one 5th round pick (143) 

vs.

2022 = two 4th round picks (109 and 115) + two 5th round picks (145 and 162).

{2000 = 6 picks within the first 143 slots}

vs.

{2022 = 9 picks within the first 162 slots}

Gigantic Advantage = 2022 Jets. 

▪︎ In other words; we're fully loaded in Franchise Draft Capital (and I think like never before too).

☆3.) Before heading into this draft while fully loaded in draft capital; we're also currently ranked top 5 in Available Salary Cap Space @ $48,196,471 (5th most amongst all NFL teams): Giving our Front Office an opportunity to plug in multiple holes (before the draft).   

☆ 4.) The last time our Jets coaching staff had an opportunity to coach the Senior Bowl game was back in 1978 of 44 years ago; meaning that this up coming draft is a big time opportunity for our Coaching Staff moving forward.

☆ 5.) Getting both of Carl Lawson and Mekhi Becton back (and potentially healthy) could become 2022's X-Factors (that hurt us in 2021). 

▪︎I can't remember the last time our Jets have (ever) headed into an Offseason with A.) Our Franchise hopeful QB already in place. B.) Top 5 available salary cap space for Free Agency. C.) The NFL's #1 draft capital and D.) Coached the Senior Bowl Game (A-D combined). 

It might feel like we currently stink due to no playoff appearances dating back to 2010 (11 year drought being the longest drought within the NFL) but don't look away now because if both of Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh can nail this FA and knock this Draft out of the park together?

☆ 2022's Offseason will then become Franchise-Altering (and quite like never before too). 

Edited February 16, 2022 by DefenseWinsChampionships

[DefenseWinsChampionships]

☆ I wasn't around for those Joe Namath days (born in 1985) but I don't remember a time where our Jets were ever in this type of position moving forward (and I've been watching since dating back to 1992 (year of the Dream Team) with...

A.) Our (potential) Franchise QB already in place.

B.) Top 5 available salary cap space and

C.) A++ draft capital. 

I just feel what Joe Douglas has done is incredible but not in terms of winning (because no GM would've had a prayer to win after both Idzik and then Mike Maccagnan sent our Franchise back into the stone ages) but rather instead; building for the future (in order to one day, win). 

▪︎ Hindsight is always 20/20 but how Mike Maccagnan passed on both Patrick Mahomes and my FSU kid Dalvin Cook for two Safety's in Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye was criminal. 

- But the way he fixed that blunder by trading Jamal Adams for two 1st round picks was genius. He's already used one of Seattle's 1st round picks in order to trade up for a cornerstone LG in Alijah Vera-Tucker and I'm super anxious to see who he drafts with Seattle's #10 overall pick for Jamal Adams this year (I'm hoping for a game breaking WR). 

▪︎ How he was able to replace an awful Sam Darnold with not only Zach Wilson but also a 2nd and 4th round pick from Carolina was another stroke of genius because I couldn't imagine getting anything more than a 5th round pick for Sam Darnold.

- And now look. Sam had an atrocious 4th year as a Panther (Zach's rookie year was better than Sam's 4th year) and Carolina has (already) quit on Sam Darnold. How Mike Maccagnan drafted him due to one Rose Bowl game as a Freshman despite the fact he was a turnover prone and fumbling/INT machine @ USC waw criminal. 

▪︎ How Joe Douglas was able to trade away Mike Maccagnan's 4th round bust of a TE who did absolutely nothingness for Minnesota in Chris Herndon for a 4th round pick was yet another stroke of genius (super excited for two 4th round picks and one being thanks to Minnesota).

▪︎ And how this man was able to fleece Pittsburgh of a 5th round pick for a washed up Avery Williamson is still beyond me. 

Jamal Adams = Alijah Vera-Tucker.  

Jamal Adams = 10th overall pick (2022). 

Sam Darnold = 2nd round pick (2022). 

Sam Darnold = 4th round pick (2022). 

Chris Herndon = 4th round pick (2022). 

Avery Williamson = 5th round pick (2022). 

(These 6 picks alone have the potential to become Franchise-Altering; especially if walking away with 4-6 NFL starters.  

(Not to mention our own 2022 draft picks of #4 overall, 2nd round, 3rd round and 5th round etc). 

These 4 picks alone have the potential to become Franchise-Altering; especially if walking away with 3-4 starters).  

So yeah. It's easy to point to his "win-loss record" as an NFL GM for the Jets without first comprehending how he's yet to utilize both his A+ draft capital and top 5 available salary cap space in which he's worked like a dog in order to acquire (and all for future success).  

▪︎ And last but not least the firing of the same Adam Gase who hired him and replaced him with a real leader in coach Robert Saleh; that was a savage move by Joe Douglas.  

I look @ 2021 as only year #1 for Joe Douglas because 2021 was his first year alongside of his hand picked HC/QB duo of Zach Wilson/Robert Saleh.  

I think when it's all said and done Joe Douglas goes down as one of if not the greatest Jets GM of All-Time because the position he's currently got us in before heading into year #2 under Coach Saleh/Zach Wilson is truly incredible and a situation I've never once witnessed nor experienced as a Jets fan. 

▪︎ PS: For as much as I like C.J. Mosley I always keep in mind that C.J. Mosley isn't a Joe Douglas FA and if released after 2022s season next year that'll save us $34M over two years (with a dead cap of 4.5M).

Meaning that we could hypothetically speaking sign Davante Adams this offseason, release C.J Mosley next Offseason (and still be in great shape cap wise). 

2022's roster will look completely different from 2020's 2-14 and 2021's 4-13 especially considering the fact that Joe Douglas now has top 5 available salary cap space for Free Agency and 9 draft picks within just the first 5 rounds alone.  

☆ As a longtime suffering fan base how can we not be excited about 2022s offseason and/or our future roster moving forward?

Edited February 16, 2022 by DefenseWinsChampionships

[xrade]

4 hours ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said:

As a longtime suffering fan base how can we not be excited about 2022s offseason and/or our future roster moving forward?

Because most have us have seen this movie before. Different cast of characters but the same plot.  Don’t get me wrong, I have more hope than usual because of how JD has approached the last two years. But I’ll contain my excitement until the Jets are a good team and we’re not arguing over how many int’s our QB may or may not throw. 

[rickyt31]

1 minute ago, xrade said:

Because most have us have seen this movie before. Different cast of characters but the same plot.  Don’t get me wrong, I have more hope than usual because of how JD has approached the last two years. But I’ll contain my excitement until the Jets are a good team and we’re not arguing over how many int’s our QB may or may not throw. 

I'm in the same boat. There are some things I like and I believe JD has a full understanding of what he needs to win, it's just selecting/signing who. Wilson looked good during a stretch, but I also remember Geno, Sanchez, and Darnold having moments that gave me hope. It's been 7 years since I bought anything with a Jets logo on it. I've completely checked out as a fan, but if we make the right moves this offseason and the coaches can actually develop, we can be good. I just don't have the confidence to say we WILL be good. 

[DefenseWinsChampionships]

57 minutes ago, xrade said:

Because most have us have seen this movie before. Different cast of characters but the same plot.  Don’t get me wrong, I have more hope than usual because of how JD has approached the last two years. But I’ll contain my excitement until the Jets are a good team and we’re not arguing over how many int’s our QB may or may not throw. 

I'm born in 1985 and I've never seen this movie before (been watching since 1992).

☆ 1.) We've already got our Franchise (hopeful) QB in place.

☆ 2.) Top 5 available salary cap space in order to attack Free Agency (before heading into our fully loaded draft). 

☆ 3.) 2000 was my favorite ever Jets draft where we drafted Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, Anthony Becht along with Laveranues Coles (due to having 5 picks throughout our first 78 selection).

In comparison to 2022s draft class which features 5 picks within just the first 69 selections.  

And/or...

2000 = 6 picks within the first 143 slots.

vs.

2022 = 9 picks within the first 162 slots. 

This is going to be FRANCHISE-ALTERING man. 

☆ 4.) First time in Franchise history we're featuring 4 draft picks within the first 38 slots.

(1984 we had 4 draft picks within the top 39 slots). 

☆ 5.) The last time our Jets coaching staff ever coached a Senior Bowl Game dates back to 1978 of 44 years ago.  

Etc.

Etc. 

Those are just 5 examples and I don't know which Jets movie you've been watching but it 100% hasn't been this upcoming 2022s version.  

I'm not saying we'll make the playoffs during only year #2 under Coach Saleh/Zach Wilson but with top 5 available salary cap space for Free Agency + 9 draft picks within just the first 5 rounds alone?

2022s Roster will look completely different in comparison to 2020's 2-14 roster under Adam Gase and 2022s team will become so much fun for us all to watch (develop). 

Edited February 17, 2022 by DefenseWinsChampionships

[doumeyer]

9 hours ago, rickyt31 said:

I'm in the same boat. There are some things I like and I believe JD has a full understanding of what he needs to win, it's just selecting/signing who. Wilson looked good during a stretch, but I also remember Geno, Sanchez, and Darnold having moments that gave me hope. It's been 7 years since I bought anything with a Jets logo on it. I've completely checked out as a fan, but if we make the right moves this offseason and the coaches can actually develop, we can be good. I just don't have the confidence to say we WILL be good. 

I agree with both Ricky & Xrade, it is a wait and see for me. We have been on the same road for the past six years now we are going into season seven of drafting.

[Bobby816]

1 hour ago, doumeyer said:

I agree with both Ricky & Xrade, it is a wait and see for me. We have been on the same road for the past six years now we are going into season seven of drafting.

Exactly. This is a pivotal offseason I think to try and "make sure" we have key pieces for Wilson to succeed. I think there really is no excuse with our cap and draft picks to not get 3 key things for us to make sure he's in the best situation to succeed. And that's a go to TE, a starting WR and a starting RG. No depth pieces there (i.e. resigning LDT isn't addressing starting RG, resigning Berrios isn't addressing starting WR IMO). Where we messed up with our other 3 recently drafted starting QBs, is we just kept on investing in defense and never giving our young QB weapons. NEVER.

 

The optimistic side of this is that JD IMO recognizes this if you look out how we've used our draft assets in his 2 drafts. 1st and 2nd in 2020 on offense, 2 1st, 2nd and 4th used on offense in 2021. For me that shows he knows that making sure whoever is at QB (now Wilson) is set up to succeed. I fully expect at least 1 of our 1sts and 1 of our 2nds to be used on offense if not more (for me ideally 3/4 are used on offense).

Dream draft for me is Ikem at 4, Burks at 10 and McBride at 35. And there's your starting RG, WR and TE right there (I should say I by no means think this happens... It's just what I'd do as the GM). And young pieces to build with Wilson along with Becton, AVT, Carter and Moore. That'd be 8 starters on offense drafted by JD in 3 years, which for starters shows how bad our offense really was/is and shows that we've spent quality picks on the right side of the ball in an offense catered league. 

[xrade]

2 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Burks at 10

I'd rather a FA WR to start.  It will help Zach more than a rookie who needs to learn how to be a WR in the NFL.  I'd rather draft a WR in round 2 or later to eventually become a starter.

[Bobby816]

8 minutes ago, xrade said:

I'd rather a FA WR to start.  It will help Zach more than a rookie who needs to learn how to be a WR in the NFL.  I'd rather draft a WR in round 2 or later to eventually become a starter.

I mean we aren't luring guys like Adams, Godwin, Mike Williams here. So a legit really good FA WR isn't very likely. We'd be more like looking at guys like resigning Cole and guys like that. Which falls right into my statement where resigning guys like LDT and Berrios I don't see as upgrades. I 100% want us to resign both. But I want those areas to be improved upon. Not just roll it back type moves.

[xrade]

34 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

I mean we aren't luring guys like Adams, Godwin, Mike Williams here.

Probably not nor would I want Adams ($) or Williams (inconsistent).  But players like Kirk, Washington and Juju could work.  They would offer more to Zach than any rookie.

[Heinz D.]

Howdy, Jets peoples!

A quick question...then my reasons for asking it?

Y'all are sold on Becton, right? He looked like a stud to me, from what I saw.

I ask because I have a sneaking suspicion that the Commanders will want jump ahead of the Giants in the draft...and I can easily see the Jets salivating at the chance to acquire more draft picks, and stick it to the Giants. I know all the draft gurus have been poo-pooing the QBs in this class, but if Rivera doesn't get a QB, he's toast. And I think that, barring Carolina doing something drastic, Washington would have its pick of the QB crop at #4.

Am I off-base with this? Can you guys see that, or have you discussed such wheelings and dealings? 

[Heinz D.]

7 minutes ago, xrade said:

But players like Kirk, Washington and Juju could work. 

Allen Robinson might be your best option. 

[Bobby816]

42 minutes ago, xrade said:

Probably not nor would I want Adams ($) or Williams (inconsistent).  But players like Kirk, Washington and Juju could work.  They would offer more to Zach than any rookie.

Do they though? Kirk and JuJu aren't exactly great WRs and are best in the slot. Ideally we get an outside WR and play Moore in the slot. Can Moore play on the outside? Sure, but why not utilize your assets to the best of their abilities? Washington to me isn't much of an upgrade. That's an average WR for me.

Now if you wanna talk trading for a proven WR that still has 3-5 good years left like Ridley, Cooper or someone like that... I'm interested in that baring the asking price isn't more than a 2nd. Those are for sure upgrades and outside WRs that are still only 27 with good years ahead of them. Cooper you might even be able to get for less than a 2nd given the money he's still owed and that cap situation DAL is in. 

[Bobby816]

48 minutes ago, Heinz D. said:

Howdy, Jets peoples!

A quick question...then my reasons for asking it?

Y'all are sold on Becton, right? He looked like a stud to me, from what I saw.

I ask because I have a sneaking suspicion that the Commanders will want jump ahead of the Giants in the draft...and I can easily see the Jets salivating at the chance to acquire more draft picks, and stick it to the Giants. I know all the draft gurus have been poo-pooing the QBs in this class, but if Rivera doesn't get a QB, he's toast. And I think that, barring Carolina doing something drastic, Washington would have its pick of the QB crop at #4.

Am I off-base with this? Can you guys see that, or have you discussed such wheelings and dealings? 

We aren't trading Becton I can nearly guarantee you that. It was this regime that drafted him, so he's not going anywhere. It'd be idiotic to trade a guy that looked great as a rookie just bc he got injured and couldn't recover in a timeline (for whatever reason). He's still a great talent and there's no way we move on from him.

So could we trade back? Absolutely. But I think this franchise is more about actually getting players now and turning things around. So I don't see us trading for a bunch of future picks is what I mean. I think we want players now. Getting a 2024 1st doesn't help Wilson become a franchise QB and if this regime doesn't win and show progression this regime wont be here for the 2024 draft. I will also say our GM doesn't lose trades. Ever. So whatever package a team thinks it will take to get one of our picks. They better look at the price higher than what they think. If a team is essence doesn't blow him away with a deal... he just wont take it. 

WAS would have to give up 11, 42, 73 and more I'd imagine for us to even "think" about it.

[Bobby816]

53 minutes ago, Heinz D. said:

Allen Robinson might be your best option. 

Can't see us bringing in a 29yr old WR after a down year. We're trying to build for the future. AR15 more than likely will go to a win now team I'd imagine.