mdonnelly21 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Who's higher on your all time list: Lawrence Taylor or Jerry Rice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Jerry Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Rice is the non QB GOAT. Maybe third behind Brady, Montana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdonnelly21 Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Rice is the non QB GOAT. Maybe third behind Brady, Montana. I have him ahead of Montana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsCrash Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I think Rice is the best player of all time (definitely non-QB), so this is an easy one for me. But, LT is still in my top 5 and I think he's the greatest LB ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Taylor. It's much harder for a player to stand out at his position and he quite literally changed football. I'll make it really simple. As good as Rice was, when he was on the 49'ers that team belonged to Montana and then Young. Nobody in their right mind would ever say Rice was more important than either of them. Taylor was the only defensive player ever on a multi Super Bowl winning team where the consensus was "this guy is far and away the face of the team and the most important guy on the field bar none". That was his team. As good as Rice was, and he was amazing, if you are building a team and you have to choose between either one of those, Taylor adds far more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 How exactly do you compare a LB to a WR? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Rice did things WRs are barely doing today in a time that was harder for offenses. Lawrence Taylor did things that we do see fairly frequently today in an era where it's harder to play defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I'd take LT every time; more valuable position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 8:20 PM, FrantikRam said: Rice did things WRs are barely doing today in a time that was harder for offenses. Lawrence Taylor did things that we do see fairly frequently today in an era where it's harder to play defense. Rice also happened to hit at the right time when the WCO was taking advantage of older defenses built to do different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 17 hours ago, biggie. said: I'd take LT every time; more valuable position. To even get to a point where you can consider LT, you have to answer the questions: Am I weighing the positional impact? Do I care at all about Longevity? Do I care at all about the locker room or off the field drama? How much am I taking away from Rice for playing with Montana/Walsh? If the answers aren't: Yes, No, No, Quite a Bit, it's basically impossible to get to the idea of LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: To even get to a point where you can consider LT, you have to answer the questions: Am I weighing the positional impact? Do I care at all about Longevity? Do I care at all about the locker room or off the field drama? How much am I taking away from Rice for playing with Montana/Walsh? If the answers aren't: Yes, No, No, Quite a Bit, it's basically impossible to get to the idea of LT. Huh? There are atleast 2 or 3 WR’s that you could argue talent for talent were on par with Rice or even better at their peak. There really isn’t anybody like that for LT. The basically comes down to whether you care THAT much about longevity. Which again is pretty bad considering one guy plays a far less physically demanding position. Rice’s teams did and could win SB’s without him (in fact the worst 49’ers drought of the Montana era occurred when he first was drafted), those Giants teams don’t win without LT. He’s the one guy you can say that based on pure skill as a defensive player approached a QB’s impact. Edited February 28, 2022 by lancerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/27/2022 at 1:16 PM, biggie. said: I'd take LT every time; more valuable position. If you look at Super Bowl participating teams, WR has gone from one of the least important positions in the league, like Bottom 4-5, to Top 3 over the past five years. Right behind QB and EDGE. So the gap is closing. Also, could Lawrence cover? As a 3-4 EDGE in today’s NFL, you need to be able to cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 They are both 100 out of 100. I will go Rice because he has no Reggie White equivalent at his level. He also played longer and won more. Its weird if you applied today's rules because both would be suspended for drugs (LT) and cheating (Rice) LT sending prostitutes to the hotel rooms of opposing players would be an interesting 2021 scandal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 LT was the best defensive player I've ever watched but my pick is Rice. IMO the 2nd greatest NFL player behind Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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