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Looking at this draft, here is a suggestion of the strengths and weaknesses.


QB - Bad at the top end, depth is average, maybe 10 or so draftable prospects.
OT - I've read this is a good year for tackles, I'd say it's generally average, but good at the top of the draft, with 4 possible prospects in the top 15 picks and just a couple more by the end of round 2.
IOL - Average year from what I can tell, with about three guys taken in each of the first three rounds.
RB - Not a stellar year, lacking real blue-chip prospects, but there are always bargains further down the draft.
WR - A good year, but when isn't it a good year for that position group.
TE - No sure-fire first rounder but really nice depth
DT and NT  - Not a good draft, either at the top (1st round) or in depth. Maybe a tiny bit worse than last year (which wasn't all that good).
Edge - A stellar year with plenty of prospects, especially the bigger (260+) guys. Not so many of the smaller 230-245 lb speed guys.
LB - Worse than average, lacking in high first rounders and modest depth.
S - Very average. About the same as last year, with one elite (top 5) prospect
CB - A good year with prospects available from the top to the bottom of the draft. Maybe 4 corners go in each of the first 4 rounds and more per round, after that.

So, if you want a big edge guy, a WR, TE or CB (all of which could be early targets for GB), you can probably find one. If you want a bigger  DT, it won't be easy to get a good one. If you are hunting an OT, your best chance (excepting a high 1st round pick) is picking up a more developmental guy in the middle rounds. You want a good QB ?  Maybe next year.

Do other people here have a take on position groups ? Post up what you think.

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6 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said:

Looking at this draft, here is a suggestion of the strengths and weaknesses.


QB - Bad at the top end, depth is average, maybe 10 or so draftable prospects.
OT - I've read this is a good year for tackles, I'd say it's generally average, but good at the top of the draft, with 4 possible prospects in the top 15 picks and just a couple more by the end of round 2.
IOL - Average year from what I can tell, with about three guys taken in each of the first three rounds.
RB - Not a stellar year, lacking real blue-chip prospects, but there are always bargains further down the draft.
WR - A good year, but when isn't it a good year for that position group.
TE - No sure-fire first rounder but really nice depth
DT and NT  - Not a good draft, either at the top (1st round) or in depth. Maybe a tiny bit worse than last year (which wasn't all that good).
Edge - A stellar year with plenty of prospects, especially the bigger (260+) guys. Not so many of the smaller 230-245 lb speed guys.
LB - Worse than average, lacking in high first rounders and modest depth.
S - Very average. About the same as last year, with one elite (top 5) prospect
CB - A good year with prospects available from the top to the bottom of the draft. Maybe 4 corners go in each of the first 4 rounds and more per round, after that.

So, if you want a big edge guy, a WR, TE or CB (all of which could be early targets for GB), you can probably find one. If you want a bigger  DT, it won't be easy to get a good one. If you are hunting an OT, your best chance (excepting a high 1st round pick) is picking up a more developmental guy in the middle rounds. You want a good QB ?  Maybe next year.

Do other people here have a take on position groups ? Post up what you think.

Good analysis overall. Couple points I'd add - I think it's a much better draft for 3t and 5t than NT if we're to look at that group closely and some value could be had in the middle rounds there.

- WR seems to lack that typical couple of studs you see go in the top ten, but I think it's deeper than usual in the 2-4 round range.

-nailed it with Edge.  If we don't get one in the first two rounds I'll be disappointed. 

- LB I think the depth in rounds 2-3 is good but you're right that it's not top heavy and it thins out quick.

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2 hours ago, Sandy said:

Good analysis overall. Couple points I'd add - I think it's a much better draft for 3t and 5t than NT if we're to look at that group closely and some value could be had in the middle rounds there.

i struggle with separating DE and Edge. Sure if the 5 tech is 290-300+ he would tend to be a 3-4 DE, but (for me at least) the differences are blurred. These days the big Edge guys the Packers have are Preston Smith (listed as 265), Zadarius (272) and Gary (277), and there are true DEs who are smaller on many teams.

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9 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said:

i struggle with separating DE and Edge. Sure if the 5 tech is 290-300+ he would tend to be a 3-4 DE, but (for me at least) the differences are blurred. These days the big Edge guys the Packers have are Preston Smith (listed as 265), Zadarius (272) and Gary (277), and there are true DEs who are smaller on many teams.

Absolutely, we'll know more after seeing their drills at the combine but there's quite a few big boy tweener types.

Funny how ten years ago, I used to think of the 255 lb guys as tweeners since they were "too light" to play 4-3 DE. Now I can't imagine looking at prospects and judging them off of their 4-3 role 😂

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As the combine starts I am most intrigued with how big some of the faster LBs will measure.  Asmoah and Bonitti, are they too small for the Packers needs?  Will be looking at OT also.  A Lucas (Wash St) and Tyler Smith (Tulsa) could slide into RT for us and really solidify our OL.  EDGE is also a huge need if both Smiths are gone.  A double dip?  I know folks really like Jermaine Johnson, but he is a RS-Senior (23?) and I don't think we want to draft older players when there isn't that much disparity in talent to go younger. I like Boye Mafe, but he too is a RS-Sen.  I really like Logan Hall from Houston, a Junior, 6-6  275.  Just a feeling.

Will also watch the safeties close.  If we spend a higher pick on a safety we might see Savage more in the Star role.

Just my two-cents before the underwear olympics start.

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On 2/26/2022 at 3:54 AM, OneTwoSixFive said:

Looking at this draft, here is a suggestion of the strengths and weaknesses.


QB - Bad at the top end, depth is average, maybe 10 or so draftable prospects.
OT - I've read this is a good year for tackles, I'd say it's generally average, but good at the top of the draft, with 4 possible prospects in the top 15 picks and just a couple more by the end of round 2.
IOL - Average year from what I can tell, with about three guys taken in each of the first three rounds.
RB - Not a stellar year, lacking real blue-chip prospects, but there are always bargains further down the draft.
WR - A good year, but when isn't it a good year for that position group.
TE - No sure-fire first rounder but really nice depth
DT and NT  - Not a good draft, either at the top (1st round) or in depth. Maybe a tiny bit worse than last year (which wasn't all that good).
Edge - A stellar year with plenty of prospects, especially the bigger (260+) guys. Not so many of the smaller 230-245 lb speed guys.
LB - Worse than average, lacking in high first rounders and modest depth.
S - Very average. About the same as last year, with one elite (top 5) prospect
CB - A good year with prospects available from the top to the bottom of the draft. Maybe 4 corners go in each of the first 4 rounds and more per round, after that.

So, if you want a big edge guy, a WR, TE or CB (all of which could be early targets for GB), you can probably find one. If you want a bigger  DT, it won't be easy to get a good one. If you are hunting an OT, your best chance (excepting a high 1st round pick) is picking up a more developmental guy in the middle rounds. You want a good QB ?  Maybe next year.

Do other people here have a take on position groups ? Post up what you think.

Pretty much agree with all of this save for OL. There's 16-20 guys (OT & IOL) you could have a good argument to put in your top 100. 

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Mike Clemens -   Alabama receiver Jameson Williams says his first two interviews yesterday were with the Bills and Packers. “I run great routes. I have speed you can’t see.” Says he’s been walking around the past 2 weeks without a brace after suffering torn ACL in Nat’l Championship.

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How much of his rookie season is he expected to miss?

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On 2/26/2022 at 3:54 AM, OneTwoSixFive said:

Looking at this draft, here is a suggestion of the strengths and weaknesses.

Haven't spent a ton of time on this year's draft, but here are my thoughts.

QB - Mediocre class.  There won't be a single QB with a first round grade.  This is looking like the '13 QB class pretty quickly, and QBs are probably going to be wildly overdrafted.
RB - Solid depth, but lacks any true blue chip prospects.  Maybe not even that second tier RB class, but should have a LOT of guys who have productive NFL careers.
WR - Similar to RB, it lacks any true blue chip prospects but makes up for it in depth.   Probably gonna be a ton of low-end #1s, high-end #2s.
TE - Very similar to the WR class, no real blue chips but some solid depth.
OT - Strong class at the top plus quality depth.  Think you can find starting quality OL on Day 2 of the draft.
IOL - Overall, a pretty solid class from top to bottom.  Not sure there's an elite IOL, but some guys who are going to have long NFL careers.

IDL - Really poor class.  Lacks any top-end prospects and not very deep.  Probably going to get overdrafted.  Looks comparable to the '21 class.
EDGE - Looking very strong.  Two blue chippers at the top and plenty of depth in this year's class.  And most appear to be on the bigger side.
LB - Liking this class if you're wanting the rangy LBs.  Not sure there's a ton of "thumpers" early in the class, but there's a pair of LBs that are likely top 20 prospects and solid depth.
CB - Solid class that probably would look better if Stingley wasn't injured this year. Solid depth overall.
S - Solid class with some real talent.

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