DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) Jerry Rice: 303 games. 1,549 receptions (5.1 per game). 22,895 receiving yards (75.5 per game). 197 TDs (0.65 per game). 14.7 yards per catch. 27 Fumbles (0.08 per game). 62.4% catch rate percentage. vs. Randy Moss: 218 games. 982 receptions (4.5 per game). 15,292 receiving yards (70.1 per game). 156 TDs (0.71 per game). 15.5 yards per catch. 16 fumbles (0.07 per game). 56.4% catch rate percentage. Yes. We all know Jerry Rice is deserving of All-Time WR G.O.A.T status because his numbers of Statistical Production just doesn't lie. And not to take anything away from #80 but at the same time Jerry Rice always had either Joe Montana (who won multiple SBs (before Rice) and then had another HOF QB in Steve Young throughout his 16 years in San Francisco, which makes me wonder... How great would Randy Moss have been if he spent 12+ years alongside of Tom Brady instead of Minnesota/Oakland/49ers? Because throughout his only 2 years alongside of Tom Brady as his Quarterback in N.E (2007 and 2009) #84 Recorded... Randy Moss with Tom Brady for Two Years: 32 games. 181 receptions (5.6 per game). 2,757 Receiving Yards (86.1 per game) 36 TDs (1.12 per game). 15.2 yards per catch. 2 fumbles (0.06%). 60.4% catch rate percentage. As we can see, Randy Moss was even more dominant and even more unstoppable alongside of Tom Brady than even Jerry Rice was alongside of both Joe Montana/Steve Young (on an average per game basis) because Randy Moss was physically unstoppable once featuring #12 as his QB. I'm not crowning #84 Randy Moss nor taking G.O.A.T status away from #80 Jerry Rice but I can't help but think the 🐐 race/gap is a little bit closer than a lot of us like to admit. (And I think that if Randy Moss would've been privileged enough to play WR for 12+ seasons alongside of Tom Brady that this type of conversation wouldn't even be a topic of discussion right now; give me #84). Edited March 2, 2022 by DefenseWinsChampionships 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnChimpo Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 IF he stayed motivated that whole time, it would be Moss, but that’s a huge if considering what happened in Oakland. If Moss had Rice’s drive, there would have been no stopping him whatsoever. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 WR is the only position that has a unanimous GOAT where the second isn’t close: Jerry Rice. Heck, a lot of people don’t even have Moss 2nd. I would have him 2nd, but it’s largely debatable between a handful of guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Give me Rice. Moss is my favorite player ever and he should have been the GOAT. I'm not a huge longevity guy. Once you put up roughly 8-10 great/elite seasons, then anything beyond that is simply gravy. However, even if you take their top 5 peak seasons and compare, Moss comes up short. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Jerry Rice. He was doing things at 40 that many HoF WRs couldn’t do at 33. Longevity of that magnitude is an incredible trait in itself - Randy Moss was sort of forced into retirement at 34, Rice had a few 1,000 seasons beyond 34 (with former CFL QB Rich Gannon as his QB). He also played his absolute best on the biggest stage - his SB vs the Denver Broncos was perhaps the best AR performance I’ve ever seen. Rice, by a significant margin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Rice. He’ll last longer and he’s self motivated and a workhorse. Moss has some physical advantages but I’ll take the consistency of Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Can we let this comparison die? Randy Moss has no argument over Jerry Rice. He was a better athlete and that's it. Jerry Rice was making Pro Bowls at the age Randy Moss was being inducted to the HoF. Edited March 3, 2022 by Bullet Club 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: WR is the only position that has a unanimous GOAT where the second isn’t close: Jerry Rice. Heck, a lot of people don’t even have Moss 2nd. I would have him 2nd, but it’s largely debatable between a handful of guys. QB is no longer close. Tom Brady is the Goat. Joe Montana is #2. Everyone else hoping they can become the #3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 If you want one WR who can go get a deep sideline contested pass, it's Moss. But the overall more productive, well rounded WR is Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) On 3/2/2022 at 6:29 PM, DefenseWinsChampionships said: And not to take anything away from #80 but at the same time Jerry Rice always had either Joe Montana (who won multiple SBs (before Rice) and then had another HOF QB in Steve Young throughout his 16 years in San Francisco, which makes me wonder... Elvis Grbac (9 games), Jeff Kemp (6), Steve Bono (6), Mike Moroski (2), and Matt Cavanugh (1). Over 24 games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs. On 3/2/2022 at 6:29 PM, DefenseWinsChampionships said: How great would Randy Moss have been if he spent 12+ years alongside of Tom Brady instead of Minnesota/Oakland/49ers? How great would any random HOF player have been with another random HOF player their entire careers? Completely irrelevant. Edited March 4, 2022 by adamq 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Rice is the GOAT. Randy had more physical/natural ability and he's my #2 of all time...but what Jerry Rice did for almost 20 years is LEGENDARY. Randy had some major spells of inconsistency in terms of "greatness" in his career. Rice dominated for two decades. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 8:47 AM, adamq said: On 3/2/2022 at 5:29 PM, DefenseWinsChampionships said: And not to take anything away from #80 but at the same time Jerry Rice always had either Joe Montana (who won multiple SBs (before Rice) and then had another HOF QB in Steve Young throughout his 16 years in San Francisco, which makes me wonder... Elvis Grbac (9 games), Jeff Kemp (6), Steve Bono (6), Mike Moroski (2), and Matt Cavanugh (1). Over 24 games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs. Rich Gannon was a journeyman QB who once got cut from a CFL tryout - one season with Rice and he’s got an MVP to his name. Rice made QBs - not the other way around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Little trivia that absolutely no one will care about: The Cowboys were set to draft Jerry Rice until the 9ers leap frogged them and took him. Can you imagine those 90's Cowboys with Rice?!? The Cowboys also told Randy Moss that they would draft him. But at that time, there was a lot of negative publicity surrounding the Cowboys and Moss was seen as a knucklehead. So they took Gregg Ellis. Ellis turned out to be a fine player, obviously no Moss, but not a bust. The trivia here is that 1999, through like 4 games, maybe 6 (I dont recall), Ellis had more TDs at DE than Moss did at WR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now that stupid trivia time is out of the way, the answer is Jerry Rice. Brady Rice LT Minster of Defense Those guys were so successful its hard for me to imagine people surpassing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 6:53 AM, ET80 said: Jerry Rice. He was doing things at 40 that many HoF WRs couldn’t do at 33. Longevity of that magnitude is an incredible trait in itself - Randy Moss was sort of forced into retirement at 34, Rice had a few 1,000 seasons beyond 34 (with former CFL QB Rich Gannon as his QB). He also played his absolute best on the biggest stage - his SB vs the Denver Broncos was perhaps the best AR performance I’ve ever seen. Rice, by a significant margin. Rich Gannon was a pro-bowler the two years in Oakland before Jerry Rice got there. Unless I'm super mistaken he never played in the CFL either. Rich Gannon was a super athletic backup for the Vikings for a few years, then got some starts. Was fringe starter/high end backup tier, then eventually went to KC and was their backup. He was voted sexiest athlete in the NFL or something like that by a magazine and the reporter was told the winner of that award is KC's QB. The reporter went to KC and was like who is your QB I have an article to write? They messed up and gave the award to Elvis Grbac... hold the phone I'm going to Google image real quick and find it this needs to be in the post: Anyways Al is a sucker for speed and hired Gruden for the west coast offense and Rich Gannon (he was like Steve Young athletic [but equally roughly old without looking it up], minus the wear and tear at that stage [and the proof of work]). Gruden had been on the 49ers Walsh staff and that was the prototype. Anyways Gannon came in and was great off the bat for the Raiders. Pairing Rice with Tim Brown took Gannon from probowler to MVP. Pretty sure if Tom Brady and Kurt Warner weren't 2000-2003 Gannon would be wildly famous still today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsCrash Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Jerry Rice was doing things that no other receiver has done in their late 30s and 40s. The longevity + consistent production makes Jerry Rice not just the best WR ever, but the best player in NFL history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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