swede700 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Agreed. A 1-yr guaranteed deal is the only guaranteed type of deal that you give a mid to late 30s non-HoF caliber QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Relax Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, JDBrocks said: Only if he'd agree to 1 year deals, and I don't think there's any way that happens. My guess is that he wants one more contract before retirement. Unless he sets some passing records and takes the Vikings deep into the playoffs, I think what he will be offered in FA will not likely be a top 5 QB contract and maybe not even top 10. Kirk's season to season consistency is both his biggest strength as well as his greatest weakness. I think the rest of the league has decided that he's reached his ceiling, and has done so with great talent surrounding him. In other words, he is what he is. I think if the offensive line gives Kirk protection all season, and Jefferson, Addison, Osborne and Hockenson show up like we think they can, Kirk might be a top 5 QB in 2023. If the defense improves to middle of the pack, the Vikings will be very dangerous. I think all that has to work for Kirk to get a big multi-year contract in FA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Captain Relax said: I think all that has to work for Kirk to get a big multi-year contract in FA. I think this is right, but unless they get to the NFCCG or SB, it won't come from the Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 An extension for Cousins just puts the Vikings back into the same cap situation that they were in under Spielman, and the type of cap situation that Kwesi has been very strategic in navigating out of and avoiding. Outside of Cousins signing an unbelievably team friendly deal, and even then I don’t think it’s all that workable, this is going to be Cousins’ last year in Minnesota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: An extension for Cousins just puts the Vikings back into the same cap situation that they were in under Spielman, and the type of cap situation that Kwesi has been very strategic in navigating out of and avoiding. Outside of Cousins signing an unbelievably team friendly deal, and even then I don’t think it’s all that workable, this is going to be Cousins’ last year in Minnesota. I agree with this. I would love to pick a QB in the first round and keep Cousins for a year. But like you state, Cousins would have to take a very team friendly deal. He has not shown a history of doing this, so I have very little hope he will now. Question is, how much of a discount would Cousin’s have to give to make the salary cap numbers make sense? 20m - 25m/year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, marshpit23 said: Question is, how much of a discount would Cousin’s have to give to make the salary cap numbers make sense? 20m - 25m/year? $25M per year is probably where you’d have to set your line. Which is just not a realistic asking point for Cousins, as his market rate is ~$40M per year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 remember when the criticism against Cousins was that we was overpaid? good times. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, vike daddy said: remember when the criticism against Cousins was that we was overpaid? good times. Yup. QB contracts all look better with age. Cousins' was no different. I still think he's extended or re-signed after the season. Honestly, I'd be fine if he retired a Viking. Which is funny, because I was adamantly against his signing (only because I knew his contract was going to be huge at that time and that he needed a better team around him to win it all). He's grown as a QB here in MN, and I don't think that growth has reached its peak yet. He'll command a big contract, but it won't be a market setter like Burrow's. In fact, I think he'd resign here for less than that $40MM mark. Time will tell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 8 hours ago, vike daddy said: remember when the criticism against Cousins was that we was overpaid? good times. And yes he still was overpaid for some of those previous years, and that could have hampered the team from being built out more. This current list doesn’t change the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 When Kirk Cousins takes his first offensive snap against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday, he will have started more games as a Viking than Daunte Culpeper. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/all-for-now?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Relax Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 While listening to the panelists on ESPN's "Get Up" talk about Dak Prescott's need to be able to play great and be a hero in the playoffs, I thought they could substitute the name Prescott for Cousins and be having the exact same conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 JT loves what the Vikings offense is doing, and despite the failures in the run game, most of the pass pro is pretty good 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 8:29 AM, Captain Relax said: While listening to the panelists on ESPN's "Get Up" talk about Dak Prescott's need to be able to play great and be a hero in the playoffs, I thought they could substitute the name Prescott for Cousins and be having the exact same conversation. It's because they are basically the same QB...except that Prescott clearly has a better offensive line and defense than Kirk has ever had. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, swede700 said: Just provides a little more evidence that Dak and Kirk are essentially the same QB...and if Baker Mayfield wouldn't talk he could be in that same conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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