pollino14 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/8/2017 at 11:44 AM, Pugger said: We are not in the situation the Browns are in because we know this situation is temporary. It's pretty disheartening knowing that one player is pretty much the main reason why we're contenders. It's be real interesting seeing if we had a league average QB and see how this team would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 hours ago, pollino14 said: It's pretty disheartening knowing that one player is pretty much the main reason why we're contenders. It's be real interesting seeing if we had a league average QB and see how this team would do. I think if we had a better QB than Hundley is presently this season wouldn't be as dire as it appears to be right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 6:04 PM, packfanfb said: Nothing to see here. No problems here. We will just do the same thing next week and hope it works better. Doesn't MM think we need to get faster on defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollino14 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 57 minutes ago, Pugger said: I think if we had a better QB than Hundley is presently this season wouldn't be as dire as it appears to be right now. Let’s say we have a guy like Phillip Rivers, just for discussion sake, what would you have our record being the rest of the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat1080 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 6 hours ago, pollino14 said: It's pretty disheartening knowing that one player is pretty much the main reason why we're contenders. It's be real interesting seeing if we had a league average QB and see how this team would do. I've known it all along and always got trashed every time for bringing it up. Year after year I watch this team and outside of Rodgers it just wasn't very special. Defense always get torched by good offenses and the WRs can't get open. It just always seems like there is never any easy yardage for this offense. I watch other teams and their offenses seem to be able to get guys open and the QB can make some easy completions. I watch our offense and I see Rodgers constantly shifting around the pocket or escaping the pocket in order to find a guy with separation. Even then, many of his throws on the run are tightly contested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollino14 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, strat1080 said: I've known it all along and always got trashed every time for bringing it up. Year after year I watch this team and outside of Rodgers it just wasn't very special. Defense always get torched by good offenses and the WRs can't get open. It just always seems like there is never any easy yardage for this offense. I watch other teams and their offenses seem to be able to get guys open and the QB can make some easy completions. I watch our offense and I see Rodgers constantly shifting around the pocket or escaping the pocket in order to find a guy with separation. Even then, many of his throws on the run are tightly contested. I really believe the offense is very talented. When healthy the line and WRs are strong groups. I think the scheme has been holding them back . The defense for years have been tolerated/masked by our offense and Aaron’s greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Teams to root for if you're convinced the season is done for (and we're a Bears loss away from me reaching that point): Giants over Niners (Unless Garropolo is going to start at some point this year)Broncos over Patriots (Mostly because screw the Patriots, but Broncos only have 3 wins)Colts over Steelers (Even though I want the Steelers to get that home field advantage)Chargers over JaguarsBengals over Titans (Lol at the Titans and Jaguars having better records than us)Bills over Saints (Saints beat us head to head and have a better chance of not falling apart)Buccaneers over Jets (Buccaneers need to get some confidence going, Jets should be able to win 2-3 more games this year)Lions over Browns (Browns aren't winning 4-5 games to get ahead of us)Redskins over VikingsTexans over RamsFalcons over CowboysDolphins over Panthers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Teams to root for if you're convinced the season is done for (and we're a Bears loss away from me reaching that point): Giants over Niners (Unless Garropolo is going to start at some point this year)Broncos over Patriots (Mostly because screw the Patriots, but Broncos only have 3 wins)Colts over Steelers (Even though I want the Steelers to get that home field advantage)Chargers over JaguarsBengals over Titans (Lol at the Titans and Jaguars having better records than us)Bills over Saints (Saints beat us head to head and have a better chance of not falling apart)Buccaneers over Jets (Buccaneers need to get some confidence going, Jets should be able to win 2-3 more games this year)Lions over Browns (Browns aren't winning 4-5 games to get ahead of us)Redskins over VikingsTexans over RamsFalcons over CowboysDolphins over Panthers I'd want any team behind us as far as win/loss goes to win so our draft status improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 “I’ve known it all along” “not that special”, good grief. How quickly we forget how scary this offense was the season before Jordy went down with the injury. Him and Cobb both well over 1,000 yards receiving. I’d hate to see the takes if we were sitting at 4-4 coming off a blown Super Bowl, MVP at QB and had Julio Jones+ good running back+ good, young defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/9/2017 at 12:18 PM, pollino14 said: It's pretty disheartening knowing that one player is pretty much the main reason why we're contenders. It's be real interesting seeing if we had a league average QB and see how this team would do. With a league average QB, TT and MM never would have made it past year 2, maybe 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/9/2017 at 7:11 PM, pollino14 said: Let’s say we have a guy like Phillip Rivers, just for discussion sake, what would you have our record being the rest of the way? Put it this way. Whatever the Chargers' record ends up this year, reduce the wins by 25% and you probably have your answer. That's probably being generous to GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, packfanfb said: With a league average QB, TT and MM never would have made it past year 2, maybe 3. #facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 With a league average QB mm tt would have won 11 consecutive super bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/9/2017 at 8:01 PM, pollino14 said: I really believe the offense is very talented. When healthy the line and WRs are strong groups. I think the scheme has been holding them back . The defense for years have been tolerated/masked by our offense and Aaron’s greatness. I disagree in terms of our WRs. I think our WRs are all Greg Jennings type players. Pro bowl numbers with Rodgers, marginal production elsewhere with anything less than a pro bowl caliber QB. Jordy may have been slightly above that level 3 years ago, but not now. Cobb is a very average slot player IMO, he is very overrated. Adams is a lesser version of Jennings. In his prime, IMO, Jennings was the best overall WR Rodgers has ever played with, Jordy right there as well. Those guys arent in the same league as a Brown, Jones, Green type of WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: #facts? We will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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