mtmmike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Forge said: No it's not. Everyone knows that the length of your leash is determined by your ability. Antonio Brown is not getting as many chances as he's getting if he's Josh Reynolds. This isn't new...Jimmy Johnson commented on this decades ago Jimmy G is 3-1 against Rodgers, including 2-0 in the playoffs. Doesn't really mean a whole lot. 3 wins against Stafford. Won against Burrow. Won against Cousins a couple of times. Kyler Murray Drew Brees Russell Wilson Matt Ryan Dak Doesn't mean a thing. He's not better than any of those guys. For sure. Of course that doesn't mean that teams are super interested in him either. But yes, they are going to try and screw Cleveland over for sure. Rodgers didn't play for 3 years....that doesn't seem like a great achievement by Baker? Brady didn't play his first year and and he and Big Ben started their careers about 20 years ago in a bit of a different era. Baker has less passing yards and the same amount of total touchdowns as Jameis Winston despite playing more games over their first 4 years. Derek Carr had more total touchdowns, more passing yards and fewer interceptions. Pretty arbitrary dynamics without a whole lot of meaning in the greater scheme of things. The guy who chose Tim Tebow as his starting QB and another guy I'm not sure has ever had any say in evaluating talent? So yes. Point 2nd are you saying he should lose to them to prove he is better. Everybody beat stafford before this year. The point is Mayfield had beaten the best the afc has to offer or are saying winning is nothing. Generally speaking beating 4 hof qbs in 4 years is good thing or are saying it does not matter. I have watched hof qbs and Mayfield has better numbers then half of them Either wins or qb stats. To show weak your argument is tell what year did Brady get his first 100 qb rating? Furthermore he has better qb number in his 4th year then Manning Aikman young Roethlisberger why dont you say it does not matter he is beating there stats It does not matter that they all have hof coaches coaching them it does matter that they all had hof Wr to throw to Make your argument but nothing compares to a rookie qb Breaking Manning touchdown record that stood for 10 plus years. Weak arguing that beating hof qbs does not mean anything that is the weakest argument yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, squire12 said: So since Baker started early in his rookiebyear his stats through 4 years ate better than some all time great. I would venture if you look at it through the # of starts for each the results change. Answer he started 7 games and beat Mannings record while his counterparts in San Diego and indy had full seasons . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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squire12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Mike Glennon Wins over: Tannehill, Matt Ryan Stafford, Roethlisberger Mike Glennon must be good as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Marcus Mariotta wins against Drew Brees, Stafford, Tannehill, Rodgers, Alex Smith, Wilson, Prescott, Brady, Eli Manning, Ryan He must be really good like Mayfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: Marcus Mariotta wins against Drew Brees, Stafford, Tannehill, Rodgers, Alex Smith, Wilson, Prescott, Brady, Eli Manning, Ryan He must be really good like Mayfield I feel like Mark Sanchez has to be a good one for this, right? 33 wins in 4 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Forge said: I feel like Mark Sanchez has to be a good one for this, right? 33 wins in 4 years Hot damn, in his rookie season alone he beat Brady, Manning, Rivers and Carson Palmer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Forge said: Hot damn, in his rookie season alone he beat Brady, Manning, Rivers and Carson Palmer. So your saying losing is better I am confused What all time rookie records due Sanchez and Breese own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, squire12 said: Marcus Mariotta wins against Drew Brees, Stafford, Tannehill, Rodgers, Alex Smith, Wilson, Prescott, Brady, Eli Manning, Ryan He must be really good like Mayfield How many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, mtmmike said: How many years All but Ryan are in the first 4, I'm pretty sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 It's just funny to see the entire league say no thanks to Baker for literally anything of value when Browns fans said he was a top 10 QB less than a year ago, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, mtmmike said: I am confused We know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: It's just funny to see the entire league say no thanks to Baker for literally anything of value when Browns fans said he was a top 10 QB less than a year ago, lol. He was really good a year ago, play off win and a strong TD to int ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 hours ago, mtmmike said: How many years Brady has beaten everyone so is deshaun better then him with his 500 Win percentage Is Roethlisberger better than Brady because of all of his losses to Brady. Your the first person that says winning does not Matter. Does Burrows beating up on Mahomes and Ben not matter. Weak arguments Al Davis just said it Just win Baby. Is Deshaun better then stafford with a .333 win percentage. How come if wins does not matter how come Hue is still not the Browns coach ? Game set match. Why don't you go up on the big board And ask if winning matters Put your signature on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 15 hours ago, NYRaider said: It's just funny to see the entire league say no thanks to Baker for literally anything of value when Browns fans said he was a top 10 QB less than a year ago, lol. Wasn't that when Josh Jacobs was a top 5 RB? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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