Harder Hitting Safety? Bob Sanders or Sean Taylor

[mdonnelly21]

Harder Hitting Safety? Bob Sanders or Sean Taylor 

[Ozzy]

 

Sean Taylor all day long, below was in a freaking Pro Bowl!

 

 

Dude was a future Hall of Famer all the way and easily one of my favorite players ever to watch, and he was one hell of a ballhawk as well and even returned punts in college at times which is nuts for someone 6-3 230 that plays safety.

 

 

[Tk3]

Bob Sanders was awesome, but Taylor hit harder

[AFlaccoSeagulls]

I love me some Bob Sanders, but yeah Sean Taylor.

[NJerseypaint]

 

[MKnight82]

Bob Sanders was about 5'8" 206 lbs. Sean Taylor was about 6'2" 225 lbs.  Taylor hit harder.  Its science. 

[Tk3]

31 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said:

 

TIL Takeo Spikes played for Philly

[El Ramster]

In 4 years Taylor had 8 FF..

53 games started.

in 48 games started Bob had 2.. 
 

Taylor whacked dudes. Bob was a menace but yeah Taylor hit like a LB. 

[Billy86]

Sean Taylor sometimes gets overrated posthumously - if his career continued as he had been playing in the 2007 season specifically then he could have been a HOFer, but he had struggled quite a bit in his first two years and wasn't quite there in his third either (though was good by that point), more of a "we'll never know" than certainty as to how the rest of his career would have gone. 

But he unquestionably hit harder than Sanders. Dude was a big, big hitter. 

[Matts4313]

23 hours ago, Ozzy said:

 

Sean Taylor all day long, below was in a freaking Pro Bowl!

 

 

Dude was a future Hall of Famer all the way and easily one of my favorite players ever to watch, and he was one hell of a ballhawk as well and even returned punts in college at times which is nuts for someone 6-3 230 that plays safety.

 

 

OMG, not this bs. 

1. That hit was a blatant jerk move. Everyone was going at half speed. Showed Taylor was a huge (bad word)head.

2. Taylor was unequivocally the 3rd best safety in his division alone at the time of his death. That year was on pace to surpass Williams, for sure, but who knows if he keeps that one excellent 9 game stretch. Or maybe it was a fluke, like many others have gone through.

3. There is no freaking way anyone thought he was a HOFer at that time. His death is the only reason people believe it now. 

[Ozzy]

2 hours ago, Matts4313 said:

OMG, not this bs. 

1. That hit was a blatant jerk move. Everyone was going at half speed. Showed Taylor was a huge (bad word)head.

2. Taylor was unequivocally the 3rd best safety in his division alone at the time of his death. That year was on pace to surpass Williams, for sure, but who knows if he keeps that one excellent 9 game stretch. Or maybe it was a fluke, like many others have gone through.

3. There is no freaking way anyone thought he was a HOFer at that time. His death is the only reason people believe it now. 

So I only believe he is good because he died young so I overrated his ability?  Fluke?  He clearly did not hang out with a great crowd and had some off the field issues going on, but that was corrected near the end of his life and it clearly showed on the football field.  He was on a trajectory of flat out superstardom.  How many safeties have been drafted top 5 overall in the NFL in the last 30 years?  One. 

 

He had absolute freak show ability for a safety his size and dudes were flat out scared of him as a hitter, sure in the NFL today he could not be as impactful because you cannot hit like that anymore but the dude is one of the most rare safeties to ever play the game. I have zero doubt he would have been a Hall of Famer if he did not die so young.  

 

To insult his abilities by saying one only thinks he is good because he is dead, well that is quite stupid.  You obviously dislike the guy, you are a Dallas fan.  I thought he was a future Hall of Famer when I saw him as a sophomore on Miami.  He had absolutely rare skill and could have been an all time great and honestly even the little he played, how rare he is as a safety, he is an all time great at the position.  Very rare size and athletic ability for the position, could tackle and be a ball hawk, play in the box or play deep down field with range.  

[Matts4313]

21 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

So I only believe he is good because he died young so I overrated his ability?  Fluke?  He clearly did not hang out with a great crowd and had some off the field issues going on, but that was corrected near the end of his life and it clearly showed on the football field.  He was on a trajectory of flat out superstardom.  How many safeties have been drafted top 5 overall in the NFL in the last 30 years?  One. 

 

He had absolute freak show ability for a safety his size and dudes were flat out scared of him as a hitter, sure in the NFL today he could not be as impactful because you cannot hit like that anymore but the dude is one of the most rare safeties to ever play the game. I have zero doubt he would have been a Hall of Famer if he did not die so young.  

 

To insult his abilities by saying one only thinks he is good because he is dead, well that is quite stupid.  You obviously dislike the guy, you are a Dallas fan.  I thought he was a future Hall of Famer when I saw him as a sophomore on Miami.  He had absolutely rare skill and could have been an all time great and honestly even the little he played, how rare he is as a safety, he is an all time great at the position.  Very rare size and athletic ability for the position, could tackle and be a ball hawk, play in the box or play deep down field with range.  

Im not going to address most of this, but a few key points:

1. I think you are confusing his college tape with his NFL tape
2. His NFL tape has 2 bad years, 1 mediocre year and 9 very good games. In no world is that HOF.
3. Had webby not deleted the archives, you could literally go read where I was saying all this stuff 15 years ago.
4. Making a statement that I dislike a player because he is on a rival is asinine. I am not a child. Its stupid dont, say it.
5. In fact, I cant even think of a single rival player that I have negative feelings for right now. Sure ill clown on DJ's fumbles or Lanes roids, but I dont hate them. 
6. I only hate their teams. And to really narrow that down, I only hate the Eagles **team**, not its players. Not their posters here. 

Honestly I probably have more hatred for the 9ers and Steelers than the Dan Snyder Skins/WFT/Commies. 

[Trojan]

Forever #1 for hard hitting safeties is Jack Tatum and you can't ever get near that level in today's game. He paralyzed Derek Stingley Jr.'s grandpa. Frequently blew helmets off.

Edited March 25, 2022 by Trojan

[Ozzy]

21 minutes ago, Matts4313 said:

Im not going to address most of this, but a few key points:

1. I think you are confusing his college tape with his NFL tape
2. His NFL tape has 2 bad years, 1 mediocre year and 9 very good games. In no world is that HOF.
3. Had webby not deleted the archives, you could literally go read where I was saying all this stuff 15 years ago.
4. Making a statement that I dislike a player because he is on a rival is asinine. I am not a child. Its stupid dont, say it.
5. In fact, I cant even think of a single rival player that I have negative feelings for right now. Sure ill clown on DJ's fumbles or Lanes roids, but I dont hate them. 
6. I only hate their teams. And to really narrow that down, I only hate the Eagles **team**, not its players. Not their posters here. 

Honestly I probably have more hatred for the 9ers and Steelers than the Dan Snyder Skins/WFT/Commies. 

Nah, Sean Taylor was a great pro, sure slow to start but in no way were they bad years.  A bad year is you sit on the bench and do not play and do nothing, he made plays those first two seasons and a lot of them no question and was on track to soon become a long time Pro Bowl / All Pro type player.  The dude was outstanding and many of his peers and or coaches in the NFL thought the same.  If you were saying he sucked 15 years ago in the NFL, well you are flat out wrong because dude was a baller and no one was like him then and has been no one really like him since.  That is called rare talent and ability not a bad player, even Ed Reed in his Hall of Fame speech mentioned that Sean Taylor should be there with him and honestly would have been.

 

“I remember sitting in meetings, and Bill Belichick was showing highlights. He told Tom Brady, ‘Let me tell you something, if you lob a ball up, he will find it. If you don’t believe me, watch this play.’ He put on a play, and Sean was on one side of the ball, the quarterback threw to the other side, and he tracked the ball from one side of the field to the other. You could just hear in the meeting room, people were like, ‘Oh my God.’ I thought right then and there everybody on my team saw what type of player he was.”

— Vince Wilfork, college teammate

 

“I’ve had to work very, very hard throughout my coaching career to try to speed people up, to try find another way to get more aggressiveness, to find another way to ask you do more. I never had to ask him. Never. When he hit ground here in Ashburn, he was full speed, full throttle, full competition at every point in time.

— Gregg Williams, Former Redskins defensive coordinator

 

“You wonder, how great would he have been. He was big and fast. You look at Ed Reed. Ed is not big, but Ed is fast. [Taylor] had big and fast. He was sideline to sideline. Look at Kam Chancellor. He can do what Kam can’t; he could cover. If he could get a pick, he’d get a pick. He was like Mayweather. Everybody knows he’s a hitter. He wanted to separate you from the ball.”

— Steve Smith, former Panthers wide receiver

 

“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.”

— Joe Gibbs, former Redskins coach

 

“He said, ‘I’ll run [the Miami conditioning test] with you.’ I go change. I’m dying. I’m dead to the world, trying to finish the test. Sean didn’t change, had on the same jeans, hoodie, some Chuck Taylors, and he came out and he did this workout with me. He finished standing upright, led the entire drill. I’m thinking, I’ve got to get in shape. I’m passed out on the field. He leaves. I’m so glad he was there. When I come in, they had this crazy look on their face. They went on to tell me, that was his third time doing it that day. I was like, ‘What the hell?’ He did it with the morning group, then the second group, then he stuck around. He did it three times, and I couldn’t finish one. It was how dominant of a mindset he had.”

— Clinton Portis, NFL and college teammate

 

 

 

[Ozzy]

And that is coming from arguably the most athletically gifted wide receiver in the history of the NFL.