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Packerraymond 2022 Mock Offseason V3


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Remaining FA's:

Jerry Hughes EDGE Buffalo: (1 yr 4mil + 3 mil in NLTBE incentives)

David Quessenberry OL Tenn: (1 yr 4mil + 1 void year)

Extensions: 

Jaire Alexander (5yrs/110m)

Trades:

Green Bay send Jordan Love to CAR for WR Robby Anderson and a 2023 conditional pick (terms range from a 5th to a 1st regarding snaps, team performance, player performance and accolades): Gute's kicked the tires on Anderson many times. He's on a contract with a minimal cap hit once CAR eats the guarantees. He has the speed and route running ability to be a stud here. CAR gets rid of a 30 year old WR in a rebuild year where they have the most cap space in the NFL. They get a nothing down look at one of the top QB's in the 2020 NFL Draft. If it whiffs all it costs them is a 4-5th round pick in '23, if it hits, they have a franchise QB and GB gets a premium pick next year. 

Draft: 

Round 1 (22): Jameson Williams 6'1 180 WR
School: Alabama

I revisited Williams this week, he'd been my #2 WR, I considered him mostly a deep threat, but I think he has a much better short game than I gave him credit for originally. The route running is not quite on an Olave level, but it's more polished than you'd expect for a speedster. The speed is Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle level, you can count the DBs who will be able to run with him on 1 hand. I ended up with a very similar grade to Waddle, the 6th overall pick in an equally strong WR draft. The only reason Williams will be here is the ACL. With the trade, our top 3 is going to be Anderson, Lazard, Cobb for Sep/Oct anyway. No rook is coming in here and surpassing those 3 in snaps. By the time Nov rolls around Williams will be 10-11 months out from surgery and hopefully by Thanksgiving he's back on the field. He's not going to be a snap king for us this year, but he's the type that only needs a couple to potentially change a game. 

Round 1 (28): Travis Jones 6'4 325 DL
School: UConn

Jordan Davis exploded the Combine, so I don't think enough people are talking about Jones, who set it on fire. 6'4 325 34+" arms, sub 5.00, 7.33 3-Cone, those are insane numbers, like a DL build in a lab. Jones has gone from a 3rd round sleeper, to the 2nd rounder everyone wanted, to a guy I bet is long gone by pick 40. The Packers have a short-term fix for the DL in Reed, but a long-term guy next to Clark is and has been a huge need for awhile. Jones can battle with Slaton for Lancaster's snaps this year as he grooms himself to start alongside Clark in 2023 when both Lowry and Reed will be FA's. This will be the best DL the Packers have put together since the 90s.

Round 2(52): Josh Paschal 6'3 268 EDGE
School: Kentucky

Joe Berry inherited The Smith Bros and Gary from the Pettine era, we're not entirely sure his preference in EDGE. If he likes the speed benders or the "***** kitties" but my guess is going to be that he's going to go with the PEttine style EDGE because he already has tow very good one. Paschal is going to very highly regarded in that style system. He's built like a statue, very hard to move, with a 37" vert and 10' 3" broad at that size to show explosion to boot. Paschal was one of the highest graded run defenders in the NCAA this year, which will lead to comfort in him playing immediately. He can kick inside to 3-Tech in rush packages which is a valuable skillset for us to get multiple EDGE bodies on the field in the sub package. I don't ever see a star player, but a career of a non-PED Mike Neal is in play.

Round 2(58): Greg Dulcich 6'4 245 TE
School: UCLA

I'm not entirely convinced that Dulcich isn't Robert Tonyan with a different hairstyle. The way they look, move, run, they're clones. Here's a list of TE's under contract in 2023: Josiah Deguara. That's it, so an investment at TE should be made relatively high this year. Dulcich should fit the inline/spread hybrid role very well. He's a solid effort blocker who's athletic and small enough to be a mismatch in the pass game. With Likely and Wydermyer being far less athletic than desired, Dulcich should see himself as #2 in this class behind McBride.

Round 3: Cole Strange 6'5 307 OG/OC
School: Chattanooga: 

Strange meets all Packer front office requirements for athletic ability, the only box not checked is playing OT in college. With Patrick gone, we have no real depth at center. Strange has the size and arm length to be a backup at 4 of the 5 positions, but will probably just focus on OG and center. There's real starter potential here I feel, he's going to be a guy most fans want on day 3, but will go on day 2.

Round 4: Zach Tom 6'4 304 OG/RT
School: Wake Forest

This guy was made in a lab to be a Packers mid-round OL pick, 9+ RAS, college LT, moving inside or RT in college. Tom is perfect depth for us, with potential to push for that RT gig long-term.

Round 4: Damarri Mathis 5'11 196 S/Slot
School: Pitt

Played outside, slot and some 1-high in college, sub 4.4 in the 40. versatile guy who will be the 3rd S, play some slot and play ST in his first year and shift to full time S in 23 if we let go of Savage.

Round 5: Bo Melton 5'11 189 WR
School: Rutgers

Nothing really stands out with Melton other than his athletic ability, but he seemed to have pretty good juice and wiggle at the Senior Bowl. A good developmental flyer, sometimes a stud athlete on a bad college team reaches their potential in the NFL.

Round 7: Jalyn Armour-Davis 6'1 197 DB
School: Alabama

Going to be a ST player for a long time in the league, size and athletic ability say he's got a shot at playing some CB too.

Round 7: Malcolm Rodriguez 5'11 230 LB
School: Oklahoma State

RAS guy who will play ST, that's really all these 7th round picks should be

Round 7: Quentin Lake 6'1 201 S
School: UCLA

ST and bloodlines, that gets you drafted in rd 7.

 

Roster Spot Contenders DC:

QB: Rodgers - Vet FA (post draft) - Benkert
RB: Jones - Dillon - Hill - Taylor
WR: Anderson - Lazard - Cobb - Williams - Rodgers - Melton - Winfree - Taylor
TE: Tonyan - Lewis - Deguara - Dulcich - Dafney
OL: Bakhtiari - Runyan - Myers - Newman - Nijman - Jenkins (PUP) - Quessenberry - Tom - Strange - Van Lanen - Hanson

DL: Clark - Lowry - Reed - Jones - Slaton - Heflin
ILB: Campbell - Barnes - Summers - Rodriguez
EDGE: Smith - Gary - Hughes - Paschal - Garvin - Tipa
CB: Alexander - Stokes - Douglas - St Charles - Armour-Davis - Ento
S: Amos - Savage - Mathis - Scott - Lake

K: Crosby
P: O' Donnell
LS: Who Knows ?

@Normtagging you so you can hurt my feelings and post your meme. 

 

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Two first names = Elite.

One first name and a second first name with an S at the end = legendary Packers.

Rashan Gary, Jaire Alexander, Kenny Clark…

Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews…

Would like to have more double first names and frankly I’m sick of seeing so few it’s like I’m the only one who knows these things.

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Like it  👍

Like your FA adds and think Anderson's a good get. Like him over Parker for no known reason other than I've never been high on the guy......plus snagging Williams first (and redshirting him) is a good move for the WR room. He's definitely a talent and will ultimately serve us well. 

I trust your other adds.

Make it happen.

 

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One of my absolute favorite things on this site...is an offseason mock from my main man, PR.

Fantastic work across the board-  love the upgrade on the DL. Awesome

 

11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

Round 4: Damarri Mathis 5'11 196 S/Slot
School: Pitt

Played outside, slot and some 1-high in college, sub 4.4 in the 40. versatile guy who will be the 3rd S, play some slot and play ST in his first year and shift to full time S in 23 if we let go of Savage.


I've seen some comments about moving Savage closer to LOS more often -  and finding another FS with range and ball skills.
Not sure about the GB plan with Savage, Amos. Or if they are considering Jaire at Star . Need more safeties either way.

 

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15 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

Two first names = Elite.

One first name and a second first name with an S at the end = legendary Packers.

Rashan Gary, Jaire Alexander, Kenny Clark…

Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews…

Would like to have more double first names and frankly I’m sick of seeing so few it’s like I’m the only one who knows these things.

You should be our GM. 

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Well thought out mock. Nothing seemed like a reach or out of place. No concerns on salary cap.  Key positions are filled with players I like that should make impacts on offense and defense. I take it to you think next year we re-sign Amos and let Savage walk. All in all very pleased with the outcome.

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Don’t really understand some of these moves. Why trade Love for almost peanuts? Robby Anderson hasn’t done anything and not sure he is anything more than a poor man MVS. 
 

Also, I like Williams but he probably won’t start practicing until late October so unlikely to have any factor this year. Also, Travis Jones has proven to not be a pass-rusher, he can develop that but unlikely that he will show that ability in the next couple of years. 
 

I really like Josh Paschal!! 

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1 hour ago, Packerraymond said:

Good thing we also draft 2 WRs. 

Speaking to that point.........

Should we fail to pull off the above mentioned Anderson trade......would you reconsider your selection at #22 (?) - for a more "hit the ground running" player (?) - or is your eval of his talents so great that we could survive a WR corps headed up by Lazard?

Dont get me wrong....I like Williams and would love to have him.......just wondering if we're not leaving the room a bit light.

Or.......would a swap for say......Devante Parker for Anderson fit your draft profile as is?

 

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I won't pretend I've really studied Robby A. at length before, but I've liked the player the little I did watch from a film perspective.  Hit my radar a bit more when he just gave Jaire fits back in 2018.  Had some of that same suddenness + length combo that made MVS dangerous, but needed to add weight and find ways to win more consistently to really become a star.  Not sure what kind of player he is now; seems pretty clear Carolina wanted him to be a different kind of player than he had been by the numbers.  YPR and depth of target fell off a cliff with CAR, but you'd expect that with Bridgewater at QB given how awful he is pushing the ball downfield.  The fact that it got so much worse in 2021 tells you it was probably a systemic issue, but I gotta wonder what that player is in 2022.  You really think he's worth moving Love for?  I feel itchy considering his fit in a system that asks for so much run blocking from its receivers and a QB who's gun-shy about his deep targets. 

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9 minutes ago, Leader said:

Speaking to that point.........

Should we fail to pull off the above mentioned Anderson trade......would you reconsider your selection at #22 (?) - for a more "hit the ground running" player (?) - or is your eval of his talents so great that we could survive a WR corps headed up by Lazard?

Dont get me wrong....I like Tillerson and would love to have him.......just wondering if we're not leaving the room a bit light.

Or.......would a swap for say......Devante Parker for Anderson fit your draft profile as is?

 

Not exactly sure what you're asking, but no rookie is going to step into #1 in Sep/Oct so I'm OK drafting a guy who's going to be rehabbing during that time anyway, so long as the potential is there.

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3 minutes ago, MrBobGray said:

I won't pretend I've really studied Robby A. at length before, but I've liked the player the little I did watch from a film perspective.  Hit my radar a bit more when he just gave Jaire fits back in 2018.  Had some of that same suddenness + length combo that made MVS dangerous, but needed to add weight and find ways to win more consistently to really become a star.  Not sure what kind of player he is now; seems pretty clear Carolina wanted him to be a different kind of player than he had been by the numbers.  YPR and depth of target fell off a cliff with CAR, but you'd expect that with Bridgewater at QB given how awful he is pushing the ball downfield.  The fact that it got so much worse in 2021 tells you it was probably a systemic issue, but I gotta wonder what that player is in 2022.  You really think he's worth moving Love for?  I feel itchy considering his fit in a system that asks for so much run blocking from its receivers and a QB who's gun-shy about his deep targets. 

If I got a conditional pick as well? Yes. I mean if the Packers staff doesn't really think he's good, I could see them just hold him for another year or try and get a proven vet for him. If they do like him a lot, I'd think a performance based conditional pick could be the biggest payoff.

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