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ROUND 1

  • JAX
    1.
    Evan Neal
    OT Alabama
     
  • DET
    2.
    Aidan Hutchinson
    EDGE/DE Michigan
     
  • HOU
    3.
    Ahmad Gardner
    CB Cincinnati
     
  • NYJ
    4.
    Ikem Ekwonu
    OT/OG North Carolina State
     
  • NYG
    5.
    Kayvon Thibodeaux
    EDGE Oregon
     
  • CAR
    6.
    Kenny Pickett
    QB Pittsburgh
     
  • NYG
    7.
    Charles Cross
    OT Mississippi State
     
  • ATL
    8.
    Travon Walker
    EDGE Georgia
     
  • SEA
    9.
    Malik Willis
    QB Liberty
     
  • NYJ
    10.
    Kyle Hamilton
    S Notre Dame
     
  • WAS
    11.
    Derek Stingley Jr.
    CB LSU
     
  • MIN
    12.
    Jermaine Johnson
    EDGE Florida State
     
  • HOU
    13.
    Garrett Wilson
    WR Ohio State
     
  • BAL
    14.
    Jordan Davis
    DT Georgia
     
  • PHI
    15.
    Jameson Williams
    WR Alabama
     
  • NO
    16.
    Trevor Penning
    OT Northern Iowa
     
  • LAC
    17.
    George Karlaftis
    EDGE Purdue
     
  • PHI
    18.
    Devin Lloyd
    LB Utah
     
  • NO
    19.
    Chris Olave
    WR Ohio State
     
  • PIT
    20.
    Andrew Booth Jr.
    CB Clemson
     
  • NE
    21.
    Drake London
    WR USC
     
  • GB
    22.
    Treylon Burks
    WR Arkansas
     
  • ARI
    23.
    Tyler Smith
    OT Tulsa
     
  • DAL
    24.
    Daxton Hill
    S Michigan
     
  • BUF
    25.
    Zion Johnson
    OG Boston College
     
  • TEN
    26.
    Tyler Linderbaum
    OC Iowa
     
  • TB
    27.
    Devonte Wyatt
    DT Georgia
     
  • GB
    28.
  • Travis Jones
  • DT Connecticut
  •  
  • KC
    29.
    Lewis Cine
    S Georgia
     
  • KC
    30.
    Kaiir Elam
    CB Florida
     
  • CIN
    31.
    Trent McDuffie
    CB Washington
     
  • DET
    32.
    Nakobe Dean
    LB Georgia
     

ROUND 2

  • JAX
    33.
    Christian Watson
    WR North Dakota State
     
  • DET
    34.
    George Pickens
    WR Georgia
     
  • NYJ
    35.
    Boye Mafe
    EDGE Minnesota
     
  • NYG
    36.
    Jahan Dotson
    WR Penn State
     
  • HOU
    37.
    Kenneth Walker III
    RB Michigan State
     
  • NYJ
    38.
    Trey McBride
    TE Colorado State
     
  • CHI
    39.
    Roger McCreary
    CB Auburn
     
  • SEA
    40.
    Perrion Winfrey
    DT Oklahoma
     
  • SEA
    41.
    Arnold Ebiketie
    EDGE Penn State
     
  • IND
    42.
    Matt Corral
    QB Mississippi
     
  • ATL
    43.
    Desmond Ridder
    QB Cincinnati
     
  • CLE
    44.
    Sam Williams
    EDGE Mississippi
     
  • BAL
    45.
    Sean Rhyan
    OG UCLA
     
  • MIN
    46.
    Kenyon Green
    OL Texas A&M
     
  • WAS
    47.
    Sam Howell
    QB North Carolina
     
  • CHI
    48.
    Jaquan Brisker
    S Penn State
     
  • NO
    49.
    Alec Pierce
    WR Cincinnati
     
  • KC
    50.
    Drake Jackson
    EDGE USC
     
  • PHI
    51.
    DeMarvin Leal
    DT Texas A&M
     
  • PIT
    52.
    Carson Strong
    QB Nevada
     
  • GB
    53.
  • Jalen Pitre
    BD Baylor
     
  • NE
    54.
    Tariq Woolen
    CB UTSA
     
  • ARI
    55.
    Breece Hall
    RB Iowa State
     
  • DAL
    56.
    Brandon Smith
    LB/EDGE Penn State
     
  • BUF
    57.
    Kyler Gordon
    CB Washington
     
  • ATL
    58.
    John Metchie III
    WR Alabama
     
  • GB
    59.
    David Ojabo
    EDGE Michigan
     
  • TB
    60.
    Chad Muma
    LB Wyoming
     
  • SF
    61.
    Nik Bosonitto
    EDGE Oklahoma
     
  • KC
    62.
    Phidarian Mathis
    DT Alabama
     
  • CIN
    63.
    Bernhard Raimann
    OT Central Michigan
     
  • DEN
    64.
    Cameron Thomas
    EDGE San Diego State
     

ROUND 3

  • JAX
    65.
    Quay Walker
    LB Georgia
     
  • DET
    66.
    Logan Hall
    DT/DE Houston
     
  • NYG
    67.
    Mario Goodrich
    CB Clemson
     
  • HOU
    68.
    Christian Harris
    LB Alabama
     
  • NYJ
    69.
    Leo Chenal
    LB Wisconsin
     
  • JAX
    70.
    Greg Dulcich
    TE UCLA
     
  • CHI
    71.
    Jalen Tolbert
    WR South Alabama
     
  • SEA
    72.
    Nicholas Petit-Frere
    OT Ohio State
     
  • IND
    73.
    Skyy Moore
    WR Western Michigan
     
  • ATL
    74.
    Isaiah Spiller
    RB Texas A&M
     
  • DEN
    75.
    Cam Taylor-Britt
    CB Nebraska
     
  • BAL
    76.
    Martin Emerson
    CB Mississippi State
     
  • MIN
    77.
    Verone McKinley
    S Oregon
     
  • CLE
    78.
    Romeo Doubs
    WR Nevada
     
  • LAC
    79.
    Isaiah Likely
    TE Coastal Carolina
     
  • HOU
    80.
    Abraham Lucas
    OT Washington State
     
  • NYG
    81.
    Brian Asamoah II
    LB Oklahoma
     
  • ATL
    82.
    Coby Bryant
    CB Cincinnati
     
  • PHI
    83.
    Kerby Joseph
    S Illinois
     
  • PIT
    84.
    Kingsley Enagbare
    EDGE South Carolina
     
  • NE
    85.
    Matthew Butler
    DT Tennessee
     
  • LV
    86.
    Ed Ingram
    OG LSU
     
  • ARI
    87.
    Jelani Woods
    TE Virginia
     
  • DAL
    88.
    Myjai Sanders
    EDGE Cincinnati
     
  • BUF
    89.
    Rachaad White
    RB Arizona State
     
  • TEN
    90.
    Daniel Faalele
    OT/OG Minnesota
     
  • TB
    91.
    Lecitus Smith
    OL Virginia
     
  • GB
    92.
    Jeremy (Martin) Ruckert
    TE Ohio State
     
  • SF
    93.
    Matt Waletzko
    OT North Dakota
     
  • KC
    94.
    Calvin Austin III
    WR Memphis
     
  • CIN
    95.
    Cade Otten
    TE Washington
     
  •  
  • DEN
    96.
    Cole Strange
    OG Chattanooga
     
  • DET
    97.
    Channing Tindall
    LB Georgia
     
  • NO
    98.
    Tyler Allgeier
    RB BYU
     
  • CLE
    99.
    Zachary Carter
    DT Florida
     
  • BAL
    100.
    Darian Kinnard
    OT/OG Kentucky
     
  • PHI
    101.
    Zyon McCollum
    CB Sam Houston State
     
  • MIA
    102.
    Isaiah Thomas
    EDGE Oklahoma
     
  • KC
    103.
    Charlie Kolar
    TE Iowa State
     
  • LAR
    104.
    Jalyn Armour-Davis
    CB Alabama
     
  • SF
    105.
    Erik Ezukanma
    WR Texas Tech
     

ROUND 4

  • JAX
    106.
    Cameron Jurgens
    OC Nebraska
     
  • HOU
    107.
    Nick Cross
    S Maryland
     
  • HOU
    108.
    Marquis Hayes
    OG Oklahoma
     
  • SEA
    109.
    Troy Andersen
    LB Montana State
     
  • BAL
    110.
    Khalil Shakir
    WR Boise State
     
  • NYJ
    111.
    Darrian Beavers
    LB Cincinnati
     
  • NYG
    112.
    Alec Lindstrom
    OC/OG Boston College
     
  • WAS
    113.
    Justyn Ross
    WR Clemson
     
  • ATL
    114.
    David Bell
    WR Purdue
     
  • DEN
    115.
    Jerome Ford
    RB Cincinnati
     
  • DEN
    116.
    Damone Clark
    LB LSU
     
  • NYJ
    117.
    John Ridgeway
    DT Arkansas
     
  • CLE
    118.
    Adam Anderson
    OLB/DE Georgia
     
  • BAL
    119.
    Alontae Taylor
    CB Tennessee
     
  • NO
    120.
    Kaleb Eleby
    QB Western Michigan
     
  • KC
    121.
    Jeffrey Gunter
    EDGE Coastal Carolina
     
  • IND
    122.
    Rasheed Walker
    OT Penn State
     
  • LAC
    123.
    Dylan Parham
    OG Memphis
     
  • PHI
    124.
    Marcus Jones
    CB/KR/PR Houston
     
  • MIA
    125.
    James Cook
    RB Georgia
     
  • LV
    126.
    Dominique Robinson
    EDGE Miami-Oh
     
  • NE
    127.
    Mykael Wright
    DB Oregon
     
  • BAL
    128.
    Jesse Luketa
    EDGE Penn State
     
  • DAL
    129.
    Dare Rosenthal
    OT Kentucky
     
  • BUF
    130.
    Thomas Booker
    DT Stanford
     
  • TEN
    131.
    Jake Ferguson
    TE Wisconsin
     
  • GB
    132.
    Wan'Dale Robinson
    WR Kentucky
     
  • TB
    133.
    Bailey Zappe
    QB Western Kentucky
     
  • SF
    134.
    Zach Tom
    OT/OG Wake Forest
     
  • KC
    135.
    Cade Mays
    OG Tennessee
     
  • CIN
    136.
    Tariq Castro-Fields
    CB Penn State
     
  • CAR
    137.
    Max Mitchell
    OT Louisiana
     
  • PIT
    138.
    Bamidele Olaseni
    OT Utah
     
  • BAL
    139.
    Sterling Weatherford
    S Miami-Oh
     
  • GB
    140.
    Alex Wright
    EDGE UAB
     
  • BAL
    141.
    Brian Robinson Jr.
    RB Alabama
     
  • LAR
    142.
    Chasen Hines
    OG LSU
     
  • TEN
    143.
    Akayleb Evans
    CB Missouri
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Instead of 2 QB's back to back how about we get rid of both of them and take other positions all together for the 1st 2 picks :)

I'll take any of the next 4 picks taken after 8 for us at 8 in Hamilton, Johnson, Walker, or Stingley

As for the 2nd round i'll take Ojabo, Jones, or Bonitto.   Rest of it is ok though  Metchie, Bell, and Spiller are very solid picks for us overall.

Johnson, Ojabo, Metchie, Spiller, Bryant, and Bell  looks like a dang good draft to me

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3 hours ago, swoosh said:

Falcons going Willis at 8 and Ridder at 43?

Updated to have Walker at 8 and Ridder at 43.

38 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said:

Instead of 2 QB's back to back how about we get rid of both of them and take other positions all together for the 1st 2 picks :)

I'll take any of the next 4 picks taken after 8 for us at 8 in Hamilton, Johnson, Walker, or Stingley

As for the 2nd round i'll take Ojabo, Jones, or Bonitto.   Rest of it is ok though  Metchie, Bell, and Spiller are very solid picks for us overall.

Johnson, Ojabo, Metchie, Spiller, Bryant, and Bell  looks like a dang good draft to me

Lol I knew I was forgetting something. I remembered doing that and was gonna change it, but...here we are.

Torn Achilles Ojabo in the high second? Go home. You're drunk. But lemme see what I can do.

Also, why don't you want a quarterback? It's kind of early to declare a tank job and cleaning house, which could happen if the team does nothing but trot out Mariota; it looks too obvious. Even if it's a tank, drafting a QB (not over-drafting, as Ridder is very reasonably worth a second round pick) somewhat high would seem prudent for the Falcons.

*Updated*

Also, lol...I went to see where Ridder has been getting drafted lately in mocks and this was the first hit. Should I...update again to reflect? 😈

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5 hours ago, NudeTayne said:

Updated to have Walker at 8 and Ridder at 43.

Lol I knew I was forgetting something. I remembered doing that and was gonna change it, but...here we are.

Torn Achilles Ojabo in the high second? Go home. You're drunk. But lemme see what I can do.

Also, why don't you want a quarterback? It's kind of early to declare a tank job and cleaning house, which could happen if the team does nothing but trot out Mariota; it looks too obvious. Even if it's a tank, drafting a QB (not over-drafting, as Ridder is very reasonably worth a second round pick) somewhat high would seem prudent for the Falcons.

*Updated*

Also, lol...I went to see where Ridder has been getting drafted lately in mocks and this was the first hit. Should I...update again to reflect? 😈

I would say the Falcons picks are good as is some people don't like the QBs but I don't like the idea of praying we have a top two pic next year take guys that may or may not come out

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Pretty dreadful Bengals draft.  Don't see Winfrey worth taking with their first pick without a trade back.  Pitre pick is probably the best of the 4, but even then there are several players i'd prefer and fit better in the next 15-20 picks.  I don't see the Bengals in on Otton, he's a little lighter than they prefer and no testing numbers.  Zach Tom is an ok pick.

Given the board at each pick, I would have gone:

One of Dean, McBride, Kenyon Green, McCreary, or most likely trade back.  Tough luck with Elam going one pick earlier, rough board for the Bengals there which would heavily lean towards trade back.  WIth a trade back Kyler Gordon, Tariq Woolen, Chad Muma, or Sam Williams might be in play as well.

Logan Hall or Nik Bonitto.  Pitre still an option

Cole Strange, Zyon McCollumn, Jalyn Armour-Davis, Nick Cross, Alontae Taylor, Jerome Ford, or Dylan Parham

Zach Tom, Sterling Weatherford, Tyquan Thornton

So making a call, no trade backs, i'd say

Kenyon Green
Logan Hall
Zyon McCollumn
Tyquan Thornton

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2 hours ago, Falconof Shadows said:

I would say the Falcons picks are good as is some people don't like the QBs but I don't like the idea of praying we have a top two pic next year take guys that may or may not come out

I'm with you on you never know what's going to be there next year. It all comes down to just not forcing it. If they strongly like one of the QBs and he's available, take him. If not, wait until next year and see what happens. 

They've been in a lot of work looking at QBs - Willis, Ridder, Corral, and Pickett. It could all be smokescreen, but I think there's a high probability a QB will be taken. And with all their extra picks, I could see them trading back up into the first round to grab one. 

I'm bias too, so I'd be perfectly fine with rolling with Mariota this year and stocking up the fridge at other positions. I'm just not going to fault anyone for mocking a QB to the Falcons. 

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8 hours ago, NudeTayne said:

Updated to have Walker at 8 and Ridder at 43.

Lol I knew I was forgetting something. I remembered doing that and was gonna change it, but...here we are.

Torn Achilles Ojabo in the high second? Go home. You're drunk. But lemme see what I can do.

Also, why don't you want a quarterback? It's kind of early to declare a tank job and cleaning house, which could happen if the team does nothing but trot out Mariota; it looks too obvious. Even if it's a tank, drafting a QB (not over-drafting, as Ridder is very reasonably worth a second round pick) somewhat high would seem prudent for the Falcons.

*Updated*

Also, lol...I went to see where Ridder has been getting drafted lately in mocks and this was the first hit. Should I...update again to reflect? 😈

Ojabo only goes like 10 picks after our pick so it's not that far away value wise lol.  Plus im thinking long term here as we won't be doing anything this year and can let him heal up this season and will then have a guy who was considered by most a top 10 edge rusher until his injury a month or 2 ago.  Getting 2 top 10 edge talents in the same draft could do alot for us starting next year.

As for QB the 3 main reasons i don't want one this year is 1. I think Mariotta has as much upside still and talent as any of them coming out this year and want to give him a legit chance if he can stay healthy.  2. I don't like this class very much and only have 2 QB's worthy of a 2nd round pick i have them both late 1st to early 2nd in Willis and Corral. 3. I would rather take a QB next year if Mariotta fails and start that rookie contract a year later to give us the biggest window on a cheap contract to put a legit contender around him before we have to pay him big money if he does well.

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2 hours ago, THE DUKE said:

I don't see the Bengals in on Otton, he's a little lighter than they prefer and no testing numbers.  Zach Tom is an ok pick.

Otten is give or take pretty much the same size as Uzomah. He's 6'5 250. I think you're reaching. Also, McCreary tested and it wasn't good, but you still want him (?). 

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Given the board at each pick, I would have gone:

One of Dean, McBride, Kenyon Green, McCreary, or most likely trade back.  Tough luck with Elam going one pick earlier, rough board for the Bengals there which would heavily lean towards trade back.  WIth a trade back Kyler Gordon, Tariq Woolen, Chad Muma, or Sam Williams might be in play as well.

Made some changes. I liked it better as was, but we'll see in a few years. I think you're too low on Winfrey and too high on some of the others. 

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Logan Hall or Nik Bonitto.  Pitre still an option

These three were all in contention. Pitre seemed the best marriage of bpa and need.

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Cole Strange, Zyon McCollumn, Jalyn Armour-Davis, Nick Cross, Alontae Taylor, Jerome Ford, or Dylan Parham

Zach Tom, Sterling Weatherford, Tyquan Thornton

So making a call, no trade backs, i'd say

Kenyon Green
Logan Hall
Zyon McCollumn
Tyquan Thornton

Will keep in mind for any updates 👍.

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13 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said:

Ojabo only goes like 10 picks after our pick so it's not that far away value wise lol.  Plus im thinking long term here as we won't be doing anything this year and can let him heal up this season and will then have a guy who was considered by most a top 10 edge rusher until his injury a month or 2 ago.  Getting 2 top 10 edge talents in the same draft could do alot for us starting next year.

TIL 17 picks is the same as 10 picks.

Tbh I think Ojabo will be over-drafted because of his position. I think this Achilles injury completely derails house highest potential, as he is somewhat one-dimensional (speed rush) right now and that it'll be two full years before he's back to where he should be. And at that point will he lose speed? Who knows? I wouldn't touch him until later third or fourth but figure someone will.

13 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said:

As for QB the 3 main reasons i don't want one this year is 1. I think Mariotta has as much upside still and talent as any of them coming out this year and want to give him a legit chance if he can stay healthy. 

I just don't think anyone really agrees with you on this so don't know where to go with it. If they trot out Mariota, it's a tank. And why would he stay healthy? Follow-up: even if he stayed healthy this year, would he next year? If he stayed healthy this year, how many wins would that really equal? 7 or 8 at best? Then what?

13 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said:

2. I don't like this class very much and only have 2 QB's worthy of a 2nd round pick i have them both late 1st to early 2nd in Willis and Corral. 3. I would rather take a QB next year if Mariotta fails and start that rookie contract a year later to give us the biggest window on a cheap contract to put a legit contender around him before we have to pay him big money if he does well.

Again, you're about the only one who thinks he won't fail. You have to get a quarterback at some point and that point looks like now. I understand there is the sentiment that is a weak draft class, but this is what GMs are paid to do, find the one they think the team can win with and develop. You don't like him, but many have Ridder as a first rounder. Pick 43 is a reasonable enough hedge that it doesn't marry them to him if he doesn't work.

TL;DR Desmond Ridder has a brighter future than Achilles Ojabo.

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22.) Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas) - Trent McDuffie [CB; Washington]

Barring either Derek Stingley or Sauce Gardner falling down the draft board, I think there's a ZERO percent chance the Packers take a CB on Day 1.  The Packers still have Jaire Alexander and drafted Eric Stokes in the first round last year AND re-signed Rasul Douglas to a 3 year deal.  CB is a Day 2 pick at the earliest, and it'd be more of the third safety role rather than a true slot corner.  Given how badly the board has fallen, Treylon Burks [WR; Arkansas] or George Pickens [WR; Georgia] are much, much better picks here.

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28.) Green Bay Packers - Christian Watson [WR; North Dakota State]

Assuming the Packers went WR at 22, they probably won't take another WR in the first round.  Travis Jones [DT; UConn] or Boye Mafe [EDGE; Minnesota] would likely be the pick here.

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53.) Green Bay Packers - Chad Muma [LB; Wyoming]

I don't hate Muma, but it's probably a bit too early for an off-ball LB given they re-signed De'Vondre Campbell and they still think highly of Krys Barnes.  John Metchie [WR; Alabama], Jalen Pitre [DB; Baylor], David Ojabo [EDGE; Michigan] or Logan Hall [DL; Houston] make a LOT more sense here.

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59.) Green Bay Packers - Bernhard Raimann [OT; Central Michigan]

Packers usually avoid older prospects, but I don't hate the value here.  Could go with any of the players left on the board that were under consideration for 53.

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92.) Green Bay Packers - Martin Ruckert [TE; Ohio State]

Probably the first good pick made.

The board is pretty damn brutal, which is what it is but then compounding it by making bad picks isn't the solution.  I think given the way the board shook out, the Packers would/should take:

1.23 - WR Treylon Burks/George Pickens
1.28 - DT Travis Jones
2.53 - DB Jalen Pitre
2.59 - EDGE David Ojabo
3.92 - TE Martin Rucker

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