turtle28 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) We all know WJ3 struggled in our zone D last year bc he had primarily been a man corner in Cincy before he came to DC. The Giants want to trade James Bradberry to open up cap space and are willing to eat pay a lot of his salary to get him off their books. I wonder if we could trade for Bradberry, extend Wentz - although it seems they really don’t want to do that but they should to lower his cap charge - and then trade a 4th for Bradberry? From the stories that are out there, we aren’t even mentioned but I really think Rivera dropped the ball last year by signing WJ3 & not signing Bradberry bc Bradberry fits our defense. We could also extend Fuller to lower his cap # to make room & then kick him to the slot when we go nickel which were in 70% of the game anyways.. Edited May 18, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 So, as we all know Bradberry signed in Phila to give the Eagles possibly the best 1-2 corner tandem in the NFCE, and maybe the NFL. There’s video of Terry smoking both over the last two years so I’m not too worried about it. Here is Terry vs Bradberry last year: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Sad Wentz contract has cost us to settle at other positions. It's no doubt in my mind Bradberry would be a Commander if Wentz contract didn't take up so much cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Philly is 100% all in. We go in about 75-80%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, DCNative said: Sad Wentz contract has cost us to settle at other positions. It's no doubt in my mind Bradberry would be a Commander if Wentz contract didn't take up so much cap. True, but if we had Bradberry & no Wentz I don’t think our team is better. Qb is by far more important. Maybe Bradberry’s name means more to people than how he actually played last year which was awful. Edited May 19, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, turtle28 said: True, but if we had Bradberry & no Wentz I don’t think our team is better. Qb is by far more important. Maybe Bradberry’s name means more to people than how he actually played last year which was awful. Continuing to support moves made that don't get this team Playoff wins or Super Bowls is doing what for you? Carson Wentz better have a MVP type season and the Defense must be the reason they fail this year with your confidence in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, DCNative said: Continuing to support moves made that don't get this team Playoff wins or Super Bowls is doing what for you? Carson Wentz better have a MVP type season and the Defense must be the reason they fail this year with your confidence in him. So you’re saying that signing Bradberry gets us closer to playoffs wins than trading for a top 15 starting QB in the league? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, turtle28 said: So you’re saying that signing Bradberry gets us closer to playoffs wins than trading for a top 15 starting QB in the league? Yup. What you keep forgetting to mention is all the other pieces he has cost us. You did call out Williams Jackson correct? How wouldn't it make sense to add Bradberry to possibly take that spot or even put us in a more flexible positions with Bradberry and Jackson on the outside while Fuller handles the slot. Edited May 19, 2022 by DCNative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, DCNative said: Yup. What you keep forgetting to mention is all the other pieces he has cost us. You did call out Williams Jackson correct? How wouldn't it make sense to add Bradberry to possibly take that spot or even put us in a more flexible positions with Bradberry and Jackson on the outside while Fuller handles the slot. If you're going to argue that we would've targeted him and we lacked the cap space to do it, then I would argue that it is the Front Office's unwillingness to convert this year's salary to a signing bonus is what has cost us that cap room to do it. Not necessarily Wentz' contract itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Thaiphoon said: If you're going to argue that we would've targeted him and we lacked the cap space to do it, then I would argue that it is the Front Office's unwillingness to convert this year's salary to a signing bonus is what has cost us that cap room to do it. Not necessarily Wentz' contract itself. Ok, I'm sure he understands the point I'm making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, DCNative said: Ok, I'm sure he understands the point I'm making. I think he does. However, you've repeatedly said that we don't have cap space because of trading for Wentz. That's not necessarily true. If there were a player the team really coveted and they needed the $ to do it, then converting the salary to a bonus this year is a no-brainer. For me, on one hand, I still don't understand why they haven't. But I do on other other hand understand why they haven't simply because if they don't need to do it, they don't have to. And won't do it until they are very tight on space. So if they REALLY wanted Bradberry, and they needed a few million to open up in space to do it, with a stroke of a pen, they could have the cap space and sign him. They didn't do that here, which tells me that they didn't value him enough to do it. Was that the right move? I dunno. I'm not impressed by his play. But who knows, maybe a change of scenery and a new DC will get him right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 But please note. I'm not one to cheerlead bad decisions just because it's the team. I'll bash them when I think they are being stupid. For example, I think they should have drafted Dean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 It might come down to "culture". Might really upset "the team" to bring in a guy who has no link to your team and pay him $10 mill when you may have guys that are very good players making a lot less. Just trying to keep the team on an even keel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Thaiphoon said: I think he does. However, you've repeatedly said that we don't have cap space because of trading for Wentz. That's not necessarily true. If there were a player the team really coveted and they needed the $ to do it, then converting the salary to a bonus this year is a no-brainer. For me, on one hand, I still don't understand why they haven't. But I do on other other hand understand why they haven't simply because if they don't need to do it, they don't have to. And won't do it until they are very tight on space. So if they REALLY wanted Bradberry, and they needed a few million to open up in space to do it, with a stroke of a pen, they could have the cap space and sign him. They didn't do that here, which tells me that they didn't value him enough to do it. Was that the right move? I dunno. I'm not impressed by his play. But who knows, maybe a change of scenery and a new DC will get him right. Ok when the Eagles are back in the playoffs while we are at home just remember all these types of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, DCNative said: Ok when the Eagles are back in the playoffs while we are at home just remember all these types of things. This is the consequences of having your coach build your roster. It's the same reason why Jamin Davis was picked instead of JOK. Or why we keep signing Carolina Panthers. This team will not improve until Rivera is either stripped of his GM duties and Mayhew is replaced or this staff is just totally fired. We aren't going anywhere with this crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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