AKRNA Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Well, Hackett got his scapegoat for this loss. Who'll it be next week? Accountability for thee, not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Crazy that over the last 3-4 years, MG3 never bothered to fix the issue. Watching him run, it’s really obvious to me that he’s carrying the ball way too low. And now that everyone knows he has a fumbling issue, you can see defenders constantly trying to knock it out whenever he’s in traffic. Tiki Barber had a similar problem during most of his career, but finally started tucking the ball up high in his chest/armpit his last few seasons. Huge difference. Edited November 21, 2022 by 1234567 Edit: Barbers fumbling issues went on longer than I remembered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, AKRNA said: Well, Hackett got his scapegoat for this loss. Who'll it be next week? Accountability for thee, not for me. Let’s look at this way - they cut Cleveland, cut Gordon and Hackett ceded play-calling. It’s slower than I’d like - and won’t be enough, barring the unforeseen, to save his job - but saying “accountability for me not for thee” is both callous and inaccurate. I don’t want to sound like I’m making excuses for Hackett, I’m not, and while I did like the hire, I will admit I was wrong (first time I’ve been wrong on a coach hire, in 16 years of posting here), he is slowly starting to figure it out in terms to taking charge of the roster and his own shortcomings. He was finally showing passion on the sidelines yesterday rather than looking confused while perusing his laminated game script trying to figure out what play to call. Again, none of this matters as he’s gone on Black Monday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: Let’s look at this way - they cut Cleveland, cut Gordon and Hackett ceded play-calling. It’s slower than I’d like - and won’t be enough, barring the unforeseen, to save his job - but saying “accountability for me not for thee” is both callous and inaccurate. I don’t want to sound like I’m making excuses for Hackett, I’m not, and while I did like the hire, I will admit I was wrong (first time I’ve been wrong on a coach hire, in 16 years of posting here), he is slowly starting to figure it out in terms to taking charge of the roster and his own shortcomings. He was finally showing passion on the sidelines yesterday rather than looking confused while perusing his laminated game script trying to figure out what play to call. Again, none of this matters as he’s gone on Black Monday. We'll have to disagree here. Anyone who would put Gordon in that spot and call his number is beyond an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Yeah I mean honestly cutting Gordon does not move me in any way. The season is over. Whole offense and coaching staff has underperformed. The cut is overdue but whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 The Javonte injury is brutal in a lot of ways, including being the reason we kept Gordon another seven weeks. Never seen a RB with worse fumble luck. They’re always so devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, BroncoBruin said: The Javonte injury is brutal in a lot of ways, including being the reason we kept Gordon another seven weeks. Never seen a RB with worse fumble luck. They’re always so devastating. @1234567 made a good point about his style. Right or wrong, most of Gordons fumbles are between the hashmarks, in short yardage or goalline. He can't handle the traffic. He's fine as a blocking back, receiver and RB between the 20's. He just can't run in heavy traffic. Why would you ever put him in that spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BroncoBruin said: The Javonte injury is brutal in a lot of ways, including being the reason we kept Gordon another seven weeks. Never seen a RB with worse fumble luck. They’re always so devastating. 3 fumbles returned for TD and 4 inside the 10 IIRC. That’s just unreal. Edited November 22, 2022 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 We were never going to be a true contender, but you could make an argument that Melvin Gordon is the single biggest reason we aren't in the playoff hunt. The timing of his fumbles is like nothing I've ever seen before. (NOTE - that doesn't say the biggest reason we aren't a contender). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 10 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: We were never going to be a true contender, but you could make an argument that Melvin Gordon is the single biggest reason we aren't in the playoff hunt. The timing of his fumbles is like nothing I've ever seen before. (NOTE - that doesn't say the biggest reason we aren't a contender). Totally turned around the Vegas game 2x... first game we're driving to go up at least 13-10, if not 17-10, and we get the ball back to start the 3Q @ LV, instead we're down 17-10 (and Wilson injures his shoulder trying to make the tackle, too). This week, we're up 10-7, about to go up 17-7, and again....we get the ball back to start the 2H. Instead, we get the FG blocked, and the whispers begin. The SEA game was an absolute crusher. And the worst part - Javonte wasn't used in the SEA game, it was MG3's FIRST touch in the @LV game, and again....we took MG3 to go there instead of Latavius Murray. Hackett deciding to use MG3 instead of Javonte @ SEA, and instead of Lat-Murray this week, such a ripple effect. I can't really criticize using MG3 @ LV, he was there purely to spell Javonte - just typical. NONE of the above excuses the problems we still have on O, or Wilson's play issues, either - but if we don't have MG3 there, not only is it unlikely that we don't have the TO's, but we also don't get Wilson's shoulder tweaked to the point where he missed the Jets game, either. And while Wilson has his issues, he's still miles ahead of Brett Rypien...so yeah. Such a butterfly effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 10 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: We were never going to be a true contender, but you could make an argument that Melvin Gordon is the single biggest reason we aren't in the playoff hunt. The timing of his fumbles is like nothing I've ever seen before. (NOTE - that doesn't say the biggest reason we aren't a contender). Ahhh! No you couldn't. I'm no Gordon fan but the top 1,612,014 reasons we're the worst offensive team in the league, worst by far in Denvers history are all at the coaching and FO level. Not arguing about Gordons fumbles, they always are awful. I'm just wondering what kind of idiot would keep putting him in those situations and expect something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosfan_101 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Melvin talking garbage about Broncos fans on his IG stories today. Imagine putting the ball down 12 times in 508 carries and yacking ANYTHING, Jesus f—-ing wept https://instagram.com/stories/melvin/2977141280035713329?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, broncosfan_101 said: Melvin talking garbage about Broncos fans on his IG stories today. Imagine putting the ball down 12 times in 508 carries and yacking ANYTHING, Jesus f—-ing wept https://instagram.com/stories/melvin/2977141280035713329?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= What's kinda weird about the numbers is this year. It's not the 12 in 508 during his stay here. It's the 5 in 115 this year. A fumble every 23 touches. Was he texting or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, AKRNA said: What's kinda weird about the numbers is this year. It's not the 12 in 508 during his stay here. It's the 5 in 115 this year. A fumble every 23 touches. Was he texting or something? It’s a sure sign he’s physically worn out. He just can’t absorb contact anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbrog24 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, broncosfan_101 said: Melvin talking garbage about Broncos fans on his IG stories today. Imagine putting the ball down 12 times in 508 carries and yacking ANYTHING, Jesus f—-ing wept https://instagram.com/stories/melvin/2977141280035713329?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Guy is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if no one will touch him with a 10ft pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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