Pastor Dillon Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Is there any chance young gets measured at the combine? 5ft 10 would hurt him over 6ft would help him the closer to 200 lbs the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Pastor Dillon said: Is there any chance young gets measured at the combine? 5ft 10 would hurt him over 6ft would help him the closer to 200 lbs the better I thought at a minimum everybody gets measured... you don't have to run ... jump... or throw... but IIRC EVERYBODY gets measured 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Dillon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 What are the odds we take a QB like Richardson or Levis and start the season with mills at QB and make a switch a few weeks into the season when mills struggles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Pastor Dillon said: What are the odds we take a QB like Richardson or Levis and start the season with mills at QB and make a switch a few weeks into the season when mills struggles? I think we would find a bridge QB not named Mills (Brissett, Garoppollo, Carr, etc.) I think the goal this year (or next year rather) is to make the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, jch1911 said: I think we would find a bridge QB not named Mills (Brissett, Garoppollo, Carr, etc.) I think the goal this year (or next year rather) is to make the playoffs. I’m feeling pretty confident that Jimmy Garoppolo is high on our list of incoming FAs - both Ryans and Caserio have experience with him as a player, and both can speak to everything he brings to the table as a QB. If Garoppolo is here, I’m considerably more comfortable with Levis or Richardson - at a pick other than 2, mind you. If Garoppolo is the FA add, Will Anderson needs to be the pick at 2, no questions asked. If the Bears stand pat and takes Anderson, then you start taking calls from teams looking to jump ahead of the Colts to select Bryce Young or CJ Stroud (I’m thinking Carolina fits the bill here - top 10 selection, multiple 2nd round picks from the McCaffery pick, etc). Jalen Carter at 2 is a last ditch option - trade down over drafting a DT, IMO. Mind you, I sincerely like Bryce Young and CJ Stroud (hell, I love both as QBs). But if you can bring in a competent QB, you don’t need to stretch to take either, you can get creative and build up a war chest of picks on top of the numerous picks you already have, and still bring in a QBOTF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORK88 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 4 hours ago, ET80 said: I’m feeling pretty confident that Jimmy Garoppolo is high on our list of incoming FAs - both Ryans and Caserio have experience with him as a player, and both can speak to everything he brings to the table as a QB. If Garoppolo is here, I’m considerably more comfortable with Levis or Richardson - at a pick other than 2, mind you. If Garoppolo is the FA add, Will Anderson needs to be the pick at 2, no questions asked. If the Bears stand pat and takes Anderson, then you start taking calls from teams looking to jump ahead of the Colts to select Bryce Young or CJ Stroud (I’m thinking Carolina fits the bill here - top 10 selection, multiple 2nd round picks from the McCaffery pick, etc). Jalen Carter at 2 is a last ditch option - trade down over drafting a DT, IMO. Mind you, I sincerely like Bryce Young and CJ Stroud (hell, I love both as QBs). But if you can bring in a competent QB, you don’t need to stretch to take either, you can get creative and build up a war chest of picks on top of the numerous picks you already have, and still bring in a QBOTF. The odds of us signing Garoppolo go up considerably too if the Jets land Carr. If not, that's the other landing spot I could see. I'm all for signing him to a short deal (2 year range) and drafting a QB at #2 (hopefully Young). My dream for the draft is Young at #2, DLine at #12, and a receiving threat at #33. EDIT: Figured I'd throw more in here for fun. I'd love Young at #2, Van Ness at #12, and a TE like Kincaid at #33. Both will shoot up draft boards, especially Van Ness when he tests well. I also have no issues going for JSN at #12. We need help on DL and more weapons on offense. I also wouldn't be surprised if we move on from Tytus since he's not the type of OL fit for the scheme. I'm glad we have enough space where we can finally sign some decent FAs. Edited February 19 by LORK88 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, LORK88 said: The odds of us signing Garoppolo go up considerably too if the Jets land Carr. If not, that's the other landing spot I could see. I'm all for signing him to a short deal (2 year range) and drafting a QB at #2 (hopefully Young). My dream for the draft is Young at #2, DLine at #12, and a receiving threat at #33. Don't forget LV may be a Jimmy G landing spot as well (McDaniels) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, LORK88 said: The odds of us signing Garoppolo go up considerably too if the Jets land Carr. If not, that's the other landing spot I could see. I'm all for signing him to a short deal (2 year range) and drafting a QB at #2 (hopefully Young). My dream for the draft is Young at #2, DLine at #12, and a receiving threat at #33. I'm a bit conflicted - if you draft Young (or Stroud) at 2, you start 'em. If you sign Jimmy G as a FA, you start him. It sucks because everyone here knows how I feel about Young, but you can't draft him and sit him, IMO. His progression is going to be about getting physical reps and getting acclimated to the speed of NFL defenses. Sitting a guy like Richardson makes sense (and you're potentially creating a Madden Create-A-Player monster if you refine him) and sitting a guy like Levis could work out (he's got the tools to be good, at least) but Young and Stroud should get real reps from the start, and Garoppolo more or less stands in the way of that, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 10 hours ago, ET80 said: I’m feeling pretty confident that Jimmy Garoppolo is high on our list of incoming FAs - both Ryans and Caserio have experience with him as a player, and both can speak to everything he brings to the table as a QB. If Garoppolo is here, I’m considerably more comfortable with Levis or Richardson - at a pick other than 2, mind you. If Garoppolo is the FA add, Will Anderson needs to be the pick at 2, no questions asked. If the Bears stand pat and takes Anderson, then you start taking calls from teams looking to jump ahead of the Colts to select Bryce Young or CJ Stroud (I’m thinking Carolina fits the bill here - top 10 selection, multiple 2nd round picks from the McCaffery pick, etc). Jalen Carter at 2 is a last ditch option - trade down over drafting a DT, IMO. Mind you, I sincerely like Bryce Young and CJ Stroud (hell, I love both as QBs). But if you can bring in a competent QB, you don’t need to stretch to take either, you can get creative and build up a war chest of picks on top of the numerous picks you already have, and still bring in a QBOTF. I honestly think #2 is Anderson or Carter and they use #12 to get a QB. They may even trade up from 12 to get him if the one they want ends up falling some. If they end up with Anderson and Richardson, that's a HR. Edited February 20 by Blaze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 20 minutes ago, Blaze said: I honestly think #2 is Anderson or Carter and they use #12 to get a QB. They make even trade up from 12 to get him if the one they want ends up falling some. If they end up with Anderson and Richardson, that's a HR. I couldn't be upset with this - even if it meant trading from 12 to somewhere inside the top 10 (I think 5?) A move from 12 - 5 actually would cost less than a move from 2 to 1 if you believe some of the nonsensical offers people are theorizing for that potential Texans/Bears move. 1.12, a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year probably does it; 1.12 and the lower of our FRPs in '24 probably gets the Texans a day 2 pick in return. Plus, of all the QBs in this draft, absolutely nobody has the upside of Anthony Richardson - AR15 is closer to Josh Allen than Will Levis, Richardson is probably the closest comparison to Cam Newton we've seem. He's a physical specimen, could be the type of QB who rushes for 1,000 a season regularly. Anderson and Richardson (with Garoppolo as a seat warmer for a season) is beautiful for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 #12 is more up to debate but I am more of a Stroud guy. I think Young is definitely a special player, fast and has an accurate arm but I watch Stroud play and I think he is the most ready to start on an NFL team. Great arm, super high IQ, actually scans his reads, a QB coach’s dream. Just scared that our receiving corps won’t do anything to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 18 hours ago, ET80 said: I couldn't be upset with this - even if it meant trading from 12 to somewhere inside the top 10 (I think 5?) A move from 12 - 5 actually would cost less than a move from 2 to 1 if you believe some of the nonsensical offers people are theorizing for that potential Texans/Bears move. 1.12, a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year probably does it; 1.12 and the lower of our FRPs in '24 probably gets the Texans a day 2 pick in return. Plus, of all the QBs in this draft, absolutely nobody has the upside of Anthony Richardson - AR15 is closer to Josh Allen than Will Levis, Richardson is probably the closest comparison to Cam Newton we've seem. He's a physical specimen, could be the type of QB who rushes for 1,000 a season regularly. Anderson and Richardson (with Garoppolo as a seat warmer for a season) is beautiful for me. Richardson is an insane athlete but I don’t like what happened to Newton long term. I would say the way Rivera and Co. used Newton is why the Panthers are in situation. No way should your franchise QB become washed that quickly and early in his career. Edited February 20 by Drained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Drained said: Richardson is an insane athlete but I don’t like what happened to Newton long term. I would say the way Rivera and Co. used Newton is why the Panthers are in situation. No way should your franchise QB become washed that quickly and early in his career. And I trust that Slowik/Ryans won't be running him 12-15 times a game like Rivera did with Cam. Much of Cam's decline also had to do with Cam playing like he's indestructible, not siding and taking on defenders by lowering his shoulder, etc - so as long as AR has some common sense and a concept of preserving his body, he should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Stroud at #2, JBN at #12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Stroud at #2, JBN at #12. ...JSN (Jaxon Smith-Njigba)? If so, I'm on board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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