Grade the draft

[Epyon]

The whole page of tweets has breakdowns on all the guys... if you want to feel better about the draft, the first 3 picks especially.

It's also been said (and it could have been here, hard to remember, and I don't have time to look it back up on my lunch) the running back we drafted actually had more receiving yards than the receiver we just grabbed. It's entirely possible that the running back ends up playing a more Cohen-esque hybrid wr/rb "weapon" role for us.

[Madmike90]

I still feel as if this draft is a solid middle of the pack B Overall…good value on some picks…not so much on others…filled some needs…still have some needs…it’s just not a knock it out the park type but I think a lot of these players can improve this 53 man roster especially when it comes to the depth we have.

[JAF-N72EX]

 

[JAF-N72EX]

23 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Ross is the only one left and I can't believe no team has given him a chance when there's really no risk. Especially teams like the Bears that need help.

Of course Reid is the smart one. If Ross blows up I will never forgive Poles.

[AZBearsFan]

11 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Of course Reid is the smart one. If Ross blows up I will never forgive Poles.

TBF that may not even be on Poles. Bears MDs may not have cleared him after reviewing his med records. We’ll never know, of course.

That he played at all last year after that is incredible from a medical standpoint. He was also a notably less productive player post-injury. I’m not sure how much of that was the injury vs. DJ playing QB poorly last year. Didn’t watch enough Clemson to see if he still looked like the same guy since they were out of the title picture in September. But, the Bears were obviously in the majority in not having much comfort with him because on talent alone he’s wayyyyyyy too good to go undrafted, and even afterward it took 2 days for him to land on a roster as a UDFA. 

KC seems like a weird spot for him to go if he had multiple options to potentially see early field time to me - the WR room is pretty full in KC in front of him even without Hill. Hardman, MVS, Juju and Skyy Moore should all be ahead of him on their depth chart, at minimum. 

[Sugashane]

12 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Of course Reid is the smart one. If Ross blows up I will never forgive Poles.

Yeah if he stays healthy and blows up Poles blew it. All those 6ths and 7ths and not even a flier? Im all for being aggressive for major talents with late picks. 

Even with major medical red flags I'd take that chance. 

[StLunatic88]

4 minutes ago, Sugashane said:

Yeah if he stays healthy and blows up Poles blew it. All those 6ths and 7ths and not even a flier? Im all for being aggressive for major talents with late picks. 

Even with major medical red flags I'd take that chance. 

And of course if this massive injury completely hinders him and he never really becomes a factor in the league, we wont hear a peep out of you all. Man some of you guys theres just no winning with you

Wake up! EVERY SIGNLE TEAM passed on him, multiple multiple times. Even the Chiefs. Using even one of the 6th/7th rounders on him is a huge risk, because you are passing on a potential 4 year contract for someone who may never really be able to play with that kind of injury.

Sure its a fine chance to take as a UDFA, because there is no real commitment there. 

[AZBearsFan]

48 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said:

And of course if this massive injury completely hinders him and he never really becomes a factor in the league, we wont hear a peep out of you all. Man some of you guys theres just no winning with you

Wake up! EVERY SIGNLE TEAM passed on him, multiple multiple times. Even the Chiefs. Using even one of the 6th/7th rounders on him is a huge risk, because you are passing on a potential 4 year contract for someone who may never really be able to play with that kind of injury.

Sure its a fine chance to take as a UDFA, because there is no real commitment there. 

If we had signed Ross a good chunk of our fan base would be immediately more invested in his success than that of Velus Jones too. No question. 

[JAF-N72EX]

1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said:

TBF that may not even be on Poles. Bears MDs may not have cleared him after reviewing his med records. We’ll never know, of course.

If he turns out to be a good player then it's 100% on Poles. Not the medical team, ballboy, or the milkman. There was literally no risk.

 

1 hour ago, StLunatic88 said:

Using even one of the 6th/7th rounders on him is a huge risk, because you are passing on a potential 4 year contract for someone who may never really be able to play with that kind of injury.

Contracts have no bearing in this discussion whatsoever.  6th/7th round contracts are so low they don't even crack the top-51.

1 hour ago, StLunatic88 said:

Sure its a fine chance to take as a UDFA, because there is no real commitment there. 

Which is the point.

[JAF-N72EX]

24 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said:

If we had signed Ross a good chunk of our fan base would be immediately more invested in his success than that of Velus Jones too. No question. 

That would be a good thing.

[StLunatic88]

19 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Contracts have no bearing in this discussion whatsoever.  6th/7th round contracts are so low they don't even crack the top-51.

You are missing the point. Locking in the 4 years of the rookie contract for the draft pick is the point. Its the opportunity cost of using that on a currently healthy player that you are expecting to have under that very cheap rookie deal for 4 years, and not using it on a guy that very well may be medically retired in 18 months

[AZBearsFan]

19 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

That would be a good thing.

In what world does it make sense to be more invested in the success of a UDFA than a 3rd round pick at the same position?

21 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

If he turns out to be a good player then it's 100% on Poles. Not the medical team, ballboy, or the milkman. There was literally no risk.

Is there some precedent of which I am unaware for GMs overriding their own medical staff and signing a guy when team doctors are saying they won’t pass that player on a physical? 

[JAF-N72EX]

2 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said:

You are missing the point. Locking in the 4 years of the rookie contract for the draft pick is the point. Its the opportunity cost of using that on a currently healthy player that you are expecting to have under that very cheap rookie deal for 4 years, and not using it on a guy that very well may be medically retired in 18 months

You run the same risk with every other late round player. Again, rookie contracts in this case don't matter at all. That's why it's there in the first place.

2 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said:

In what world does it make sense to be more invested in the success of a UDFA than a 3rd round pick at the same position?

What? Signing Ross would not have stopped people from being invested in Jones. That's nonsense. Adding a player like Ross would've just added more potential talent at a weak position and given fans something else to look forward too.

8 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said:

Is there some precedent of which I am unaware for GMs overriding their own medical staff and signing a guy when team doctors are saying they won’t pass that player on a physical? 

Not sure but there sure as hell is a precedent that every move a team makes falls on the GM.

[StLunatic88]

4 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Not sure but there sure as hell is a precedent that every move a team makes falls on the GM.

If a GM isnt listening to his medial staff, then why does he have one?

Yes every decision comes back to the GM, but I have never head any rational fans blaming the GM because the medicals came back bad?

[JAF-N72EX]

Just now, StLunatic88 said:

If a GM isnt listening to his medial staff, then why does he have one?

Yes every decision comes back to the GM, but I have never head any rational fans blaming the GM because the medicals came back bad?

How long have you been watching football? Because GMs get blamed for it all the time.