NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Fair enough I like all of your guys players, lol. And honestly Goedert probably did fit your system better just because of how run heavy you guys were, I also understand that his production was capped because he played alongside Ertz for so long. I know that he's one of the best TE's in the league, they're just different players though. It's like comparing Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams, both can be really good, but they don't have to win or impact the game in the same way to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I like all of your guys players, lol. And honestly Goedert probably did fit your system better just because of how run heavy you guys were, I also understand that his production was capped because he played alongside Ertz for so long. I know that he's one of the best TE's in the league, they're just different players though. It's like comparing Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams, both can be really good, but they don't have to win or impact the game in the same way to be good. No it's comparing James Harden to Kawhi Leonard. Goedert is Leonard. Harden will average more points, but is he the better player? Nope. Why? Kawhi does all of his job well, while Harden is a liability on D. Edited May 14, 2022 by Jeezla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Let me just ask this then. If the Eagles and Raiders traded Waller for Goedert, what #'s do you think Goedert would end up with in LV, and what #s do you think Waller would end up with in PHI? During Waller's two most productive years Carr averaged like 4,000 passing yards. The Eagles had like 3,600 passing yards during Goedert's most productive season. Carr had never been some crazy, high volume passer until last season when our OL went to crap and our coaching staff fell apart and he did that without Waller for a good portion of the season. Regardless though Hurts is a good player and should be the Eagles QB going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jeezla said: No it's comparing James Harden to Kawhi Leonard. Goedert is Leonard. Harden will average more points, but is he the better player? Nope. Why? Kawhi does all of his job well, while Harden is a liability on D. So Goedert has the ability to single handedly lift a team to a championship level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: During Waller's two most productive years Carr averaged like 4,000 passing yards. The Eagles had like 3,600 passing yards during Goedert's most productive season. Carr had never been some crazy, high volume passer until last season when our OL went to crap and our coaching staff fell apart and he did that without Waller for a good portion of the season. Regardless though Hurts is a good player and should be the Eagles QB going forward. Don't skate around the question, just honestly answer it. Goederts #s in LV Wallers #s in PHI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: So Goedert has the ability to single handedly lift a team to a championship level? No, and neither does Kawhi. And Kawhi is my fave. Edited May 14, 2022 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 You guys have a top 3 TE in Goedert, arguably the best WR duo in the NFL now too, a great offensive line, and a great stable of RB. Anything short of an NFC title game or Super Bowl is a complete bust for you guys, just proud to say that we were able to blow away that superstar god squad last year. @TheRealMcCoy @Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Jeezla said: No, and neither does Kawhi He did it in Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I like all of your guys players, lol. And honestly Goedert probably did fit your system better just because of how run heavy you guys were, I also understand that his production was capped because he played alongside Ertz for so long. I know that he's one of the best TE's in the league, they're just different players though. It's like comparing Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams, both can be really good, but they don't have to win or impact the game in the same way to be good. In PFF's top 101 players in the NFL. Waller was nowhere to be found. Goedert ranked #23 overall sandwiched right between Justin Jefferson at #21, and Ja'Marr Chase at #26, Travis Kelce #32, and Tyreek Hill #33. You might have heard of them. But, its not all bad news..... your boy Davante Adams was #5 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeezla said: Don't skate around the question, just honestly answer it. Goederts #s in LV Wallers #s in PHI Waller's numbers in Philly would probably be like 1,500 yards, Goedert in LV would probably be like 500 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: Waller's numbers in Philly would probably be like 1,500 yards, Goedert in LV would probably be like 500 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, TheRealMcCoy said: In PFF's top 101 players in the NFL. Waller was nowhere to be found. Goedert ranked #23 overall sandwiched right between Justin Jefferson at #21, and Ja'Marr Chase at #26, Travis Kelce #32, and Tyreek Hill #33. You might have heard of them. But, its not all bad news..... your boy Davante Adams was #5 😎 You realize that PFF is one of the worst outlets when it comes to evaluating players, right? And that Waller was hurt for the majority of last season. I just hope you guys are better than us this year, tbh. You guys have the greatest team in NFL history based on the way you're talking, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Waller's numbers in Philly would probably be like 1,500 yards, Goedert in LV would probably be like 500 yards. Waller would get hit NFCE style week 1 and go on IR, it was a trick question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 8:39 PM, Yin-Yang said: 1. Schultz 2. Kelce 3. Andrews 4. Waller 5. Kittle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Jeezla said: Waller would get hit NFCE style week 1 and go on IR, it was a trick question Goedert is the best TE in football, Waller can't hold his jock strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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