Ty21 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 billy spikes would never lie to me. He instantly would become the most compelling free agent WR. For 11 games of the year, he’s a #1 guy for you, but what do you do for the half of the season he’s out? In the question of Mike Thomas vs Allen, I’d probably go Allen at this point (especially since we don’t even run slants) but neither are signings you can really get excited about. I scouted Keenan Allen coming out of high school (multiple definitions there, since we left hs at the same time lol) so I feel like a personal card in the matter. Excellent route runner. Don’t know how he looks these days and figure now that he’s 30, his injuries will just keep getting worse. It’s a definite question mark. If these rumors are true, it’s all but guaranteed they’ll take one of Johnston, JSN, Addison, or Flowers at 22 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Cap Casualties I recently took a look around the league, for my next mock, at who might be some guys cut that we could be interested in. There are some sites that list Top Candidates in the league, other team specific sites that will talk about their guys, But I put together a list of potential guys. There will be some surprises, so I included a few Unlikely guys, and noted as so by italicizing BUF Bills - Nyheim Hines, Isaiah McKenzie, Tim Settle, Mitch Morse MIA Dolphins - Byron Jones, Zqach Sieler, Keion Crossen, Robert Hunt, Connor Williams NE Patriots - Trent Brown, Hunter Henry, Kendrick Bourne, Jalen Mills, DeVante Parker NY Jets - Carl Lawson, Corey Davis, Braxton Berrios, Duane Brown, Laken Tomlinson BAL Ravens - Chuck Clark, Gus Edwards, Calais Campbell, Michael Pierce, Kevin Zeitler, Morgan Moses CIN Bengals - La'el Collins, Chidobe Awuzie, Tyler Boyd, BJ Hill, Mike Hilton CLE Browns - Joel Haeg, Jordan Elliot, Jakeem Grant, Deion Jones, John Johnson III PIT Steelers - William Jackson, Montravis Adams, Myles Jack, Chuks Okorafor, Ahkello Witherspoon, Levi Wallace HOU Texans - Mario Addison, Desmond King, Justin Britt, Jerry Hughes, AJ Cann, Christian Kirksey IND Colts - Matt Ryan, Nick Foles, Ryan Kelly, Kenny Moore, Grover Stewart, Stephon Gilmore, DeForest Buckner JAX Jaguars - Shaquill Griffin, Rayshawn Jenkins, Roy Robertson-Harris, K'Levon Chaisson, Jamal Agnew TEN Titans - Bud Dupree, Randy Bullock, Robert Woods, Ryan Tannehil, Taylor Lewan, Denico Autry, Zach Cunningham, Ben Jones DEN Broncos - Chase Edmunds, Graham Glasgow, Mike Purcell, Jake Martin, Ronald Darby, Josey Jewell KC Chiefs - Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Frank Clark, Harrison Butker LV Raiders - Derek Carr, Andre James, Bilal Nichols, Branden Bolden LA Chargers - Matt Feiler, Michael Davis, Khalil Mack, Keenan Allen Gerald Everett DAL Cowboys - Ezekiel Elliott, Jayron Kearse, Jourdan Lewis, Tyron Smith NY Giants - Kenny Golliday, Adoree Jackson, Leonard Williams PHI Eagles - Quez Watkins, Landon Dickerson WAS Commanders - Carson Wentz, Logan Thomas, JD McKissick, Chase Roullier, Andrew Norwall, Kendall Fuller CHI Bears - Al-Quadin, Muhammad, Cody Whitehair, Eddie Jackson DET Lions - Michael Brockers, Romeo Okwara, Charles Harris, Josh Reynolds, Halapulvaati Vaitai, Jared Goff GB Packers - Aaron Jones, Preston Smith, Rasul Douglas, David Bakhtiari MIN Vikings - Eric Hendricks, CJ Ham, Harrison Smith, Adam Thielen, Za'Darius Smith, Chris Reed, Jordan Hicks, Dalvin Cooks ATL Falcons - Marcus Mariota, Casey Hayward CAR Panthers - Shaq Thompson, Pat Eflein, Damien Wilson, Xavier Woods, Frankie Luvu NO Saints - Michael Thomas, Jameis Winston, Taysom Hill, James Hurst, Wil Lutz, Carl Granderson, Trequan Smith, Adam Trautman, Cameron Jordan, Andrus Peat TB Buccaneers - Leonard Fournette, Ryan Succop, Cameron Brate, Shaq Mason, Donovan Smith ARZ Cardinals - Robbie Anderson, Maekus Golden, Colt McCoy, JJ Watt LA Rams - Tyler Higbee, Leonard Floyd, Brian Allen, Coleman Shelton SF 49ers - Ray-Ray McCloud SEA Seahawks - Shelby Harris, Gabe Jackson, Al Woods, Quinton Jefferson, Will Dissly Edited February 6 by StLunatic88 Completely Missed the Saints 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Ty21 said: billy spikes would never lie to me. He instantly would become the most compelling free agent WR. For 11 games of the year, he’s a #1 guy for you, but what do you do for the half of the season he’s out? In the question of Mike Thomas vs Allen, I’d probably go Allen at this point (especially since we don’t even run slants) but neither are signings you can really get excited about. I scouted Keenan Allen coming out of high school (multiple definitions there, since we left hs at the same time lol) so I feel like a personal card in the matter. Excellent route runner. Don’t know how he looks these days and figure now that he’s 30, his injuries will just keep getting worse. It’s a definite question mark. If these rumors are true, it’s all but guaranteed they’ll take one of Johnston, JSN, Addison, or Flowers at 22 imo. Both Allen & Michael Thomas will be very tempting this offseason...personally if I am taking on it's still Thomas because I think he is less banged up and more talented but I could see either or being brought in to try and help what should be a really young room and as long as we have the right expectations either could be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Both Allen & Michael Thomas will be very tempting this offseason...personally if I am taking on it's still Thomas because I think he is less banged up and more talented but I could see either or being brought in to try and help what should be a really young room and as long as we have the right expectations either could be useful. wut? he's played in 26 games the last 4 years combined. that means he's missed 40. That's 40% of games he's played in the last 4 years Edited February 6 by HuskieBear math 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 minute ago, HuskieBear said: wut? he's played in 26 games the last 4 years combined. that means he's missed 40. That's 40% of games he's missed in the last 4 years I think reading between the lines it's that Thomas hasn't wanted to play through pain rather than him being banged up...now that brings about concerns over his attitude and rightfully so but part of me thinks his issue is more with the Saints organisation than rather than his health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, StLunatic88 said: Cap Casualties I recently took a look around the league, for my next mock, at who might be some guys cut that we could be interested in. There are some sites that list Top Candidates in the league, other team specific sites that will talk about their guys, But I put together a list of potential guys. There will be some surprises, so I included a few Unlikely guys, and noted as so by italicizing BUF Bills - Nyheim Hines, Isaiah McKenzie, Tim Settle, Mitch Morse MIA Dolphins - Byron Jones, Zqach Sieler, Keion Crossen, Robert Hunt, Connor Williams NE Patriots - Trent Brown, Hunter Henry, Kendrick Bourne, Jalen Mills, DeVante Parker NY Jets - Carl Lawson, Corey Davis, Braxton Berrios, Duane Brown, Laken Tomlinson BAL Ravens - Chuck Clark, Gus Edwards, Calais Campbell, Michael Pierce, Kevin Zeitler, Morgan Moses CIN Bengals - La'el Collins, Chidobe Awuzie, Tyler Boyd, BJ Hill, Mike Hilton CLE Browns - Joel Haeg, Jordan Elliot, Jakeem Grant, Deion Jones, John Johnson III PIT Steelers - William Jackson, Montravis Adams, Myles Jack, Chuks Okorafor, Ahkello Witherspoon, Levi Wallace HOU Texans - Mario Addison, Desmond King, Justin Britt, Jerry Hughes, AJ Cann, Christian Kirksey IND Colts - Matt Ryan, Nick Foles, Ryan Kelly, Kenny Moore, Grover Stewart, Stephon Gilmore, DeForest Buckner JAX Jaguars - Shaquill Griffin, Rayshawn Jenkins, Roy Robertson-Harris, K'Levon Chaisson, Jamal Agnew TEN Titans - Bud Dupree, Randy Bullock, Robert Woods, Ryan Tannehil, Taylor Lewan, Denico Autry, Zach Cunningham, Ben Jones DEN Broncos - Chase Edmunds, Graham Glasgow, Mike Purcell, Jake Martin, Ronald Darby, Josey Jewell KC Chiefs - Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Frank Clark, Harrison Butker LV Raiders - Derek Carr, Andre James, Bilal Nichols, Branden Bolden LA Chargers - Matt Feiler, Michael Davis, Khalil Mack, Keenan Allen Gerald Everett DAL Cowboys - Ezekiel Elliott, Jayron Kearse, Jourdan Lewis, Tyron Smith NY Giants - Kenny Golliday, Adoree Jackson, Leonard Williams PHI Eagles - Quez Watkins, Landon Dickerson WAS Commanders - Carson Wentz, Logan Thomas, JD McKissick, Chase Roullier, Andrew Norwall, Kendall Fuller CHI Bears - Al-Quadin, Muhammad, Cody Whitehair, Eddie Jackson DET Lions - Michael Brockers, Romeo Okwara, Charles Harris, Josh Reynolds, Halapulvaati Vaitai, Jared Goff GB Packers - Aaron Jones, Preston Smith, Rasul Douglas, David Bakhtiari MIN Vikings - Eric Hendricks, CJ Ham, Harrison Smith, Adam Thielen, Za'Darius Smith, Chris Reed, Jordan Hicks, Dalvin Cooks ATL Falcons - Marcus Mariota, Casey Hayward CAR Panthers - Shaq Thompson, Pat Eflein, Damien Wilson, Xavier Woods, Frankie Luvu TB Buccaneers - Leonard Fournette, Ryan Succop, Cameron Brate, Shaq Mason, Donovan Smith ARZ Cardinals - Robbie Anderson, Maekus Golden, Colt McCoy, JJ Watt LA Rams - Tyler Higbee, Leonard Floyd, Brian Allen, Coleman Shelton SF 49ers - Ray-Ray McCloud SEA Seahawks - Shelby Harris, Gabe Jackson, Al Woods, Quinton Jefferson, Will Dissly If JAX parts ways with RRH I’d love to see a reunion there. His game has only seemingly continued to improve since he left. From the rest of those guys, I think Shaq Mason would be a great get. I love the fit of Aaron Jones in our offense too as a shorter term vet, and while I’m not sure how warm the interest would be on the other side, Khalil Mack would make a lot of sense with a contract much more palatable structure-wise than the one we just traded away last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Always liked Green...had some of the best body control I have ever seen...made some truly spectacular catches over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Always liked Green...had some of the best body control I have ever seen...made some truly spectacular catches over the years. Case of a player playing far longer than he should’ve. Calvin had the right idea stepping away before he became Green. Edited February 6 by Ty21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: I think reading between the lines it's that Thomas hasn't wanted to play through pain rather than him being banged up...now that brings about concerns over his attitude and rightfully so but part of me thinks his issue is more with the Saints organisation than rather than his health. I’m not sure if a combination of injury history and low mental integrity make him more appealing than a guy with just injury history. They are used pretty similarly. Aged similarly. Allen has done more recently. Neither really spread the field so much as get quick yards around the first down marker. I wonder if Allen would be a good signing for that reason. Mooney and Claypool should be able to both take the top off the defense a bit with their speed and history of deep ball success, making Allen a quick hitch and heavily targeted short guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, Ty21 said: I’m not sure if a combination of injury history and low mental integrity make him more appealing than a guy with just injury history. They are used pretty similarly. Aged similarly. Allen has done more recently. Neither really spread the field so much as get quick yards around the first down marker. I wonder if Allen would be a good signing for that reason. Mooney and Claypool should be able to both take the top off the defense a bit with their speed and history of deep ball success, making Allen a quick hitch and heavily targeted short guy. Neither are great options for all the above reasons and ideally I would rather have another team spend money on them for us to then take someone else but still I could see us trying to grab one for the experience alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: I think reading between the lines it's that Thomas hasn't wanted to play through pain rather than him being banged up...now that brings about concerns over his attitude and rightfully so but part of me thinks his issue is more with the Saints organisation than rather than his health. 8 minutes ago, Ty21 said: I’m not sure if a combination of injury history and low mental integrity make him more appealing than a guy with just injury history. They are used pretty similarly. Aged similarly. Allen has done more recently. Neither really spread the field so much as get quick yards around the first down marker. I wonder if Allen would be a good signing for that reason. Mooney and Claypool should be able to both take the top off the defense a bit with their speed and history of deep ball success, making Allen a quick hitch and heavily targeted short guy. Regardless on if it's mental or physical not playing or being available is still not playing or being available. Why would it all of a sudden be different here? No to Thomas. Maybe to Allen...but not a really strong maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Flores should be the HC in Arizona...really bad news he is landing in our division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 9 hours ago, Bigbear72 said: Regardless on if it's mental or physical not playing or being available is still not playing or being available. Why would it all of a sudden be different here? No to Thomas. Maybe to Allen...but not a really strong maybe. The narrative about Allen being “injury prone” is pretty flawed IMO. In the 5 years before 2022 he missed 3 total games. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleKe00.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 9 hours ago, AZBearsFan said: The narrative about Allen being “injury prone” is pretty flawed IMO. In the 5 years before 2022 he missed 3 total games. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleKe00.htm Yea, but you're now going too far the other way. As someone who loves him, and always had him on my fantasy team he was constantly a "game time decision" and then once he played, he was less than effective. Hes still very good, and I would take him n a heartbeat, but honestly why does he come here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 16 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Flores should be the HC in Arizona...really bad news he is landing in our division. He should still be the HC in Miami, but... Feels like they Kyler thing (contract, performance, injury) is really hurting the Cardinals right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.