RSkinGM Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, DCNative said: I hope your referring this to Terry McLaruin. McLaurin . for the record 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 15 hours ago, lavar703 said: Whomever is willing to stay in this godforsaken franchise while playing at a high level deserves to be overpaid lol. Give Terry whatever he wants. Hopefully it will keep Rivera from trading for McCaffrey next season. I mean, I hear you. I’m not letting him go unless the money gets absolutely out of line. But there has to be some line, I feel like. Putting aside the franchise and its issues momentarily, I really don’t see how anyone could justify paying him more than Adams, Kupp, Diggs, and Hill (among the WRs who have gotten paid recently). It’s a different zip code of production. So if he’s trying to push up into that $26-30M range, I think the only you could justify it is by accepting that you’re paying a multi-million dollar penalty annually for being the team we are. Which stings. No one is asking/expecting him to take a hometown discount, but damn…making us pay more to keep him? Yikes. At the end of the day, the AJ Brown contract is pretty close to the line for me. I’d probably go 4/$104M ($50M guaranteed) or maybe all the way to 5/$125M ($65M guaranteed) if we were talking an even longer deal. But beyond that, it’s kinda just extortion. And I don’t like that. I love Terry, but we’re talking about a guy who is going to be 27 and has essentially averaged 1000 yards a season. He means more to us than he does to the rest of the league, and it would be a little bit of a shame to know he was holding the team hostage over that fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, e16bball said: I mean, I hear you. I’m not letting him go unless the money gets absolutely out of line. But there has to be some line, I feel like. Putting aside the franchise and its issues momentarily, I really don’t see how anyone could justify paying him more than Adams, Kupp, Diggs, and Hill (among the WRs who have gotten paid recently). It’s a different zip code of production. So if he’s trying to push up into that $26-30M range, I think the only you could justify it is by accepting that you’re paying a multi-million dollar penalty annually for being the team we are. Which stings. No one is asking/expecting him to take a hometown discount, but damn…making us pay more to keep him? Yikes. At the end of the day, the AJ Brown contract is pretty close to the line for me. I’d probably go 4/$104M ($50M guaranteed) or maybe all the way to 5/$125M ($65M guaranteed) if we were talking an even longer deal. But beyond that, it’s kinda just extortion. And I don’t like that. I love Terry, but we’re talking about a guy who is going to be 27 and has essentially averaged 1000 yards a season. He means more to us than he does to the rest of the league, and it would be a little bit of a shame to know he was holding the team hostage over that fact. If we had GOLD STAR likes.. I'd give you one . ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, e16bball said: I mean, I hear you. I’m not letting him go unless the money gets absolutely out of line. But there has to be some line, I feel like. Putting aside the franchise and its issues momentarily, I really don’t see how anyone could justify paying him more than Adams, Kupp, Diggs, and Hill (among the WRs who have gotten paid recently). It’s a different zip code of production. So if he’s trying to push up into that $26-30M range, I think the only you could justify it is by accepting that you’re paying a multi-million dollar penalty annually for being the team we are. Which stings. No one is asking/expecting him to take a hometown discount, but damn…making us pay more to keep him? Yikes. At the end of the day, the AJ Brown contract is pretty close to the line for me. I’d probably go 4/$104M ($50M guaranteed) or maybe all the way to 5/$125M ($65M guaranteed) if we were talking an even longer deal. But beyond that, it’s kinda just extortion. And I don’t like that. I love Terry, but we’re talking about a guy who is going to be 27 and has essentially averaged 1000 yards a season. He means more to us than he does to the rest of the league, and it would be a little bit of a shame to know he was holding the team hostage over that fact. Why all of sudden would Terry's Character change? Why would Terry be asking for a deal that would hold the Team hostage. Nothing Terry has done or said says he is asking for some Ridiculous contract, yet Washington has a LONG History of mismanagement and mishandling things in the front office. Trying to insinuate this is on Terry McLaruin anyway is just dead wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DCNative said: Why all of sudden would Terry's Character change? Why would Terry be asking for a deal that would hold the Team hostage. Nothing Terry has done or said says he is asking for some Ridiculous contract, yet Washington has a LONG History of mismanagement and mishandling things in the front office. Trying to insinuate this is on Terry McLaruin anyway is just dead wrong. Wait a minute . I've NEVER heard him say he WANTS to be here, Wants to be a Commnader for life .. I've never heard him say anything about his future honestly . one way or the other . AND you still can't spell his name ! Edited June 22, 2022 by RSkinGM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: Wait a minute . I've NEVER heard him say he WANTS to be here, Wants to be a Commnader for life .. I've never heard him say anything about his future honestly . one way or the other . AND you still can't spell his name ! Have you heard him say he doesn't want to be here? If so sure he doesn't want to be in Washington for life, why haven't you suggested just trading him away Now? Instead of tagging him for constantly for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, DCNative said: Have you heard him say he doesn't want to be here? If so sure he doesn't want to be in Washington for life, why haven't you suggested just trading him away Now? Instead of tagging him for constantly for 3 years. I said if you could comprehend .. I haven't heard him say anything ONE WAY or the OTHER. That means I haven't heard him say he doesn't want to be here . I HAVE suggested trading him now if we can get a #1 . I don't want to but I don't think they'll get a deal done. I never said I WANTED to tag him twice. I said that's what I EXPECT to happen . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: I said if you could comprehend .. I haven't heard him say anything ONE WAY or the OTHER. That means I haven't heard him say he doesn't want to be here . I HAVE suggested trading him now if we can get a #1 . I don't want to but I don't think they'll get a deal done. I never said I WANTED to tag him twice. I said that's what I EXPECT to happen . And I asked why would you Assume or Suggest he doesn't want to be here!!!! Instead of holding the Franchise Accountable it's seems you want to start throwing shade Terry's way. That's not cool! Since you Expect them to Tag him, you should be calling them out on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, DCNative said: And I asked why would you Assume or Suggest he doesn't want to be here!!!! Instead of holding the Franchise Accountable it's seems you want to start throwing shade Terry's way. That's not cool! Since you Expect them to Tag him, you should be calling them out on that! I never suggested he didn't want to be here . AND I do think either side could be the villian here . We don't know the BID and the ASK- to use stock trade terms . We just don't know . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCNative Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: I never suggested he didn't want to be here . AND I do think either side could be the villian here . We don't know the BID and the ASK- to use stock trade terms . We just don't know . We do know what is acceptable and not acceptable from the deals that have been done. We do know the history of this front office not paying players or just using the The Franchise Tag and letting players go. Could Terry be next? Why would that even happen? History says it's more on Washington than anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, DCNative said: Why all of sudden would Terry's Character change? Why would Terry be asking for a deal that would hold the Team hostage. Nothing Terry has done or said says he is asking for some Ridiculous contract, yet Washington has a LONG History of mismanagement and mishandling things in the front office. Trying to insinuate this is on Terry McLaruin anyway is just dead wrong. I’m not trying to put anything on anyone. I have no idea whose fault it is that negotiations continue to move slowly, although I’m with you — the team is the one with the history of screwing stuff up. What I am saying is that if they did put one of those deals on the table that I suggested (4/$104M or 5/$125M) and Terry still wasn’t willing to sign, then that to me would signal that he has no interest in signing here unless we vastly overpay him to stay. Which is basically where it seems Scherff was, as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) On 6/22/2022 at 2:33 PM, e16bball said: I mean, I hear you. I’m not letting him go unless the money gets absolutely out of line. But there has to be some line, I feel like. Putting aside the franchise and its issues momentarily, I really don’t see how anyone could justify paying him more than Adams, Kupp, Diggs, and Hill (among the WRs who have gotten paid recently). It’s a different zip code of production. So if he’s trying to push up into that $26-30M range, I think the only you could justify it is by accepting that you’re paying a multi-million dollar penalty annually for being the team we are. Which stings. No one is asking/expecting him to take a hometown discount, but damn…making us pay more to keep him? Yikes. At the end of the day, the AJ Brown contract is pretty close to the line for me. I’d probably go 4/$104M ($50M guaranteed) or maybe all the way to 5/$125M ($65M guaranteed) if we were talking an even longer deal. But beyond that, it’s kinda just extortion. And I don’t like that. I love Terry, but we’re talking about a guy who is going to be 27 and has essentially averaged 1000 yards a season. He means more to us than he does to the rest of the league, and it would be a little bit of a shame to know he was holding the team hostage over that fact. While I hear this, are you willing to lose Terry over 3 or 4 million avg per year? I’m not. Find some other way to find that $3 to $5 mil jag starter by the draft or by signing a FA who costs $1 or 2 mil instead of $3 to $5 mil. I do 100% agree that Terry should get the same or a similar contract to AJ Brown. Edited June 24, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 5:48 PM, e16bball said: I’m not trying to put anything on anyone. I have no idea whose fault it is that negotiations continue to move slowly, although I’m with you — the team is the one with the history of screwing stuff up. What I am saying is that if they did put one of those deals on the table that I suggested (4/$104M or 5/$125M) and Terry still wasn’t willing to sign, then that to me would signal that he has no interest in signing here unless we vastly overpay him to stay. Which is basically where it seems Scherff was, as well. Yeah, I’d Terry isn’t signing an AJ Brown type deal then it’s trade time for me. Trade Terry like the Titans did with Brown. Take back that 1st round pick and move forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 https://theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/23605/George-Kittle-expects-Deebo-Samuel-contract-news--in-three-weeks- Maybe McLaurins team is wanting to see how this unfolds. Not that he should get the same kinda deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 hours ago, RSkinGM said: https://theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/23605/George-Kittle-expects-Deebo-Samuel-contract-news--in-three-weeks- Maybe McLaurins team is wanting to see how this unfolds. Not that he should get the same kinda deal. Maybe. There is always another WR deal to come, but frankly how many more comps does Terry or washington need to find a number? Not to mention there were deals signed this offseason by players who are clearly better than him so a top end should be pretty clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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