NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I'm interested to see what happens with Dereck Lively's draft stock this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: I'm interested to see what happens with Dereck Lively's draft stock this season. Yeah, I really don’t know where his stock will be next June. He puts it all together while being a key part in Duke going on a nice run in the tournament and he could easily be a top 10 pick. He struggles and I could see him dropping into the 20s. Very intrigued to see how it goes for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, TitanSlim said: Yeah, I really don’t know where his stock will be next June. He puts it all together while being a key part in Duke going on a nice run in the tournament and he could easily be a top 10 pick. He struggles and I could see him dropping into the 20s. Very intrigued to see how it goes for him. Considering Duren just went #13 and Williams went #15 I don't think he'll fall that far. He's reportedly 7'2" with a 7'8" wingspan, is super athletic, has great defensive instincts, and has an improving offensive skillset. The DraftExpress guys said that he reminds them of Evan Mobley as a guy that's a prototypical big in the modern NBA. I think the biggest swing factor for him will be if he can become more than just a rim runner and serve as a floor spacing big as well. It's just tough because the value of centers has diminished so much as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Leonard Miller is one of the most intriguing prospects in next years class, imo. He was smart to take his name out of the draft and play in the G-League for a year, probably went from a 2nd round guy to a lottery pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1. Houston: Victor Wembanyama | FC | France 2. Oklahoma City: Scoot Henderson | CG | G-League 3. Detroit: Dariq Whitehead | GF | Duke 4. Orlando: Nick Smith | CG | Arkansas 5. Indiana: Ausar Thompson | GF | Overtime Elite 6. Washington: Amen Thompson | CG | Overtime Elite 7. Sacramento: Cameron Whitemore | F | Villanova 8. San Antonio: Dereck Lively | C | Duke 9. New York: Dillon Mitchell | F | Texas 10. Portland: Kel'el Ware | C | Oregon 11. New Orleans (via LAL): Kyle Filipowski | FC | Duke 12. Utah: Leonard Miller | F | G-League 13. Indiana (via CLE): Jarace Walker | F | Houston 14. Charlotte: Keyonte George | CG | Baylor 15. LA Lakers (via NOP): Anthony Black | CG | Arkansas 16. Minnesota: Cason Wallace | PG | Kentucky 17. Orlando (via CHI): Amari Bailey | CG | UCLA 18. Atlanta: Brandon Miller | F | Alabama 19. Denver: Jordan Walsh | F | Arkansas 20. Toronto: Harrison Ingram | GF | Stanford 21. New York (via DAL): James Nnaji | C | Nigeria 22. Brooklyn: Kris Murray | F | Iowa 23. Phoenix: Terquavion Smith | PG | NC State 24. Brooklyn (via PHI): Gradey **** | GF | Kansas 25. LA Clippers: Jalen Warley | PG | Florida State 26. Boston: Julian Strawther | F | Gonzaga 28. Memphis: Caleb Love | CG | North Carolina 28. Oklahoma City (via MIA): Ousmane N’Diaye | FC | Senegal 29. Golden State: Chris Livingston | GF | Kentucky 30. Houston (via MIL): Emoni Bates | GF | TBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Can you imagine a big 3 of Green/Jabari/Victor... @Texansfan713 I also think Dariq Whitehead would be a perfect fit next to Cade/Ivey on the perimeter. Ivey/Duren/Whitehead would take you from one of the least athletic teams in the NBA to one of the most athletic teams. @Sllim Pickens Edited June 25, 2022 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Can you imagine a big 3 of Green/Jabari/Victor... @Texansfan713 would be over for the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: would be over for the league. TyTy - Green - Jabari - Eason - Victor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 1. Houston: Victor Wembanyama | FC | France 2. Oklahoma City: Scoot Henderson | CG | G-League 3. Detroit: Dariq Whitehead | GF | Duke 4. Orlando: Nick Smith | CG | Arkansas 5. Indiana: Ausar Thompson | GF | Overtime Elite 6. Washington: Amen Thompson | CG | Overtime Elite 7. Sacramento: Cameron Whitemore | F | Villanova 8. San Antonio: Dereck Lively | C | Duke 9. New York: Dillon Mitchell | F | Texas 10. Portland: Kel'el Ware | C | Oregon 11. New Orleans (via LAL): Kyle Filipowski | FC | Duke 12. Utah: Leonard Miller | F | G-League 13. Indiana (via CLE): Jarace Walker | F | Houston 14. Charlotte: Keyonte George | CG | Baylor 15. LA Lakers (via NOP): Anthony Black | CG | Arkansas 16. Minnesota: Cason Wallace | PG | Kentucky 17. Orlando (via CHI): Amari Bailey | CG | UCLA 18. Atlanta: Brandon Miller | F | Alabama 19. Denver: Jordan Walsh | F | Arkansas 20. Toronto: Harrison Ingram | GF | Stanford 21. New York (via DAL): James Nnaji | C | Nigeria 22. Brooklyn: Kris Murray | F | Iowa 23. Phoenix: Terquavion Smith | PG | NC State 24. Brooklyn (via PHI): Gradey **** | GF | Kansas 25. LA Clippers: Jalen Warley | PG | Florida State 26. Boston: Julian Strawther | F | Gonzaga 28. Memphis: Caleb Love | CG | North Carolina 28. Oklahoma City (via MIA): Ousmane N’Diaye | FC | Senegal 29. Golden State: Chris Livingston | GF | Kentucky 30. Houston (via MIL): Emoni Bates | GF | TBD The hope is that we wouldn’t be picking that high again this year. Hopefully Duren is at least a little better than Stewart. Cade should continue progressing as he had a really solid finish to last year with little help. Then if Ivey is just a little better than Killian Hayes/Joseph/Diallo then we shouldn’t be in contention for a pick that high without lotto luck. If we can sign a stretch 4 like Bridges we should be in the playoffs, even if just the play in if these guys are what they are supposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: The hope is that we wouldn’t be picking that high again this year. Hopefully Duren is at least a little better than Stewart. Cade should continue progressing as he had a really solid finish to last year with little help. Then if Ivey is just a little better than Killian Hayes/Joseph/Diallo then we shouldn’t be in contention for a pick that high without lotto luck. If we can sign a stretch 4 like Bridges we should be in the playoffs, even if just the play in if these guys are what they are supposed to be. The playoffs next year will be tough because Milwaukee, Boston, Miami, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, and Toronto all look like they're essentially locks to make it assuming health. So you'd be battling for one of the final 2 spots with the Bulls, Hawks, Cavaliers, and Hornets. Since you're out of the Ayton sweepstakes and the Bridges signing seems difficult to pull off I could see you guys just committing to going all in with your young core next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: The hope is that we wouldn’t be picking that high again this year. Hopefully Duren is at least a little better than Stewart. Cade should continue progressing as he had a really solid finish to last year with little help. Then if Ivey is just a little better than Killian Hayes/Joseph/Diallo then we shouldn’t be in contention for a pick that high without lotto luck. If we can sign a stretch 4 like Bridges we should be in the playoffs, even if just the play in if these guys are what they are supposed to be. we shouldn't be bottom 4 but i think like 32 wins is probably the ceiling for next year. a cade - ivey - bey - stewart - duren starting five has an everage age of 20.8. outside of joseph and olynyk the next 8 or 9 rotation guys are all under 24. the bench is still suspect and i'm not really sure how bagley fits with stewart or duren offensively if stew isn't a real shooting option. unless cade jumps straight to all nba numbers or bey really starts scoring efficiently there's nothing really dragging the whole group upwards and they're too young overall to expect consistency every night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, catcheryea said: we shouldn't be bottom 4 but i think like 32 wins is probably the ceiling for next year. a cade - ivey - bey - stewart - duren starting five has an everage age of 20.8. outside of joseph and olynyk the next 8 or 9 rotation guys are all under 24. the bench is still suspect and i'm not really sure how bagley fits with stewart or duren offensively if stew isn't a real shooting option. unless cade jumps straight to all nba numbers or bey really starts scoring efficiently there's nothing really dragging the whole group upwards and they're too young overall to expect consistency every night Duren/Stewart won't start or play signfiicant minutes together. Neither guy has much range offensively to have good spacing if they're playing together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, catcheryea said: we shouldn't be bottom 4 but i think like 32 wins is probably the ceiling for next year. a cade - ivey - bey - stewart - duren starting five has an everage age of 20.8. outside of joseph and olynyk the next 8 or 9 rotation guys are all under 24. the bench is still suspect and i'm not really sure how bagley fits with stewart or duren offensively if stew isn't a real shooting option. unless cade jumps straight to all nba numbers or bey really starts scoring efficiently there's nothing really dragging the whole group upwards and they're too young overall to expect consistency every night I get that, but also don’t expect Duren and Stew to be starting together. I’m guessing we add a stretch 4 of some sort. Even if it isn’t Bridges, someone like Chris Boucher on a short deal would help spacing. I’m not expecting instant success but if Cade is expected to be a star, I’d like to see more glimpses of that now. Plenty of young guys have carried teams to the playoffs/play in recently like Ball, Trae Young, Luka, Garland etc. I am hoping with a little more help around him, Cade really takes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: Duren/Stewart won't start or play signfiicant minutes together. Neither guy has much range offensively to have good spacing if they're playing together. i'd agree but weaver has said a few times since thursday that he likes their fit together and stewart shot like 50% from 3 over the last couple weeks of the season once they started giving him a greener light. if he can take a couple more and stay in the mid 30s that's not terrible. but if not then it's obviously a total spacing disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, catcheryea said: i'd agree but weaver has said a few times since thursday that he likes their fit together and stewart shot like 50% from 3 over the last couple weeks of the season once they started giving him a greener light. if he can take a couple more and stay in the mid 30s that's not terrible. but if not then it's obviously a total spacing disaster Even defensively you'd have to ask one of them to come out of the paint to guard guys on the perimeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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