N'keal Harry is here

[StLunatic88]

1 minute ago, beardown3231 said:

Straw man my ***. Literally people all over twitter post the GIF of when he first walked into HH and it says "King Poles does it again."

All over twitter?

First things first, you are using random twitter handles as "proof" of something, so thats a rough start right there. I have yet to see literally one single person do this. I havent seen that GIF anywhere since like the day it happened.

No one is  actually praising anything he has done. Saying "I'll wait to see what the plan is, and how he follows through" is not praise, but its not reactionary enough apparently so it gets your panties in a twist? Thats the only explanation for some of the attitude around here

 

[abstract_thought]

57 minutes ago, Bigbear72 said:

I can appreciate the above. It has driven me insane as well. It absolutely pains me that our franchise is not relevant. That being said, everyone deserves a fair chance. This entire staff has walked into positions that they have never held before. It's going to take some time. 4 games is not enough. I see what you see and it sucks, but not to think that there would be significant growing pains this year would be naïve to say the least. Most people fall the very 1st time they ride a bike, let's see if this staff get's back up first before we condemn them.

There’s a way to give them time while also criticizing their decision to field an amateur roster. Fans need to hold this franchise accountable if they expect a better standard of play. 

I didn’t expect this team to be good, but I expected more positives than we’ve seen so far. It would be hard to expect less. For a rebuilding team, the Bears don’t seem like they’ve added enough young talent. The staff seems far too conservative when they have nothing to lose. Hopefully they make some positive changes over the rest of the season.

[Bigbear72]

5 minutes ago, abstract_thought said:

There’s a way to give them time while also criticizing their decision to field an amateur roster. Fans need to hold this franchise accountable if they expect a better standard of play. 

I didn’t expect this team to be good, but I expected more positives than we’ve seen so far. It would be hard to expect less. For a rebuilding team, the Bears don’t seem like they’ve added enough young talent. The staff seems far too conservative when they have nothing to lose. Hopefully they make some positive changes over the rest of the season.

I agree with the above. However, in some cases there seems to be a lot of criticism and no patience. This franchise absolutely deserves criticism. They have a lot to prove and the results thus far leave a lot to be desired. I can see and respect both sides of this debate. I suppose my problem is not necessarily with the message but with the delivery. But again, to each his own.

[MonserinNC]

Haha...this Diggs Mooney thing has gotten out of hand...when I said chose to Diggs I meant in like play style/body build....same as Kmet being like Kyle Rudolph....Thats it....i didn't say they were better or really even equals(although I did say same) haha

Also I'm going to double down again, Mooney is kind of awesome

Fields is having problems foreal foreal....I'm not giving up our anything but he isn't playing well.....i don't think I've seen him complete a slant or check down all year

[Ty21]

Harry going over 1k this year is getting more bleak 

[beardown3231]

2 hours ago, StLunatic88 said:

All over twitter?

First things first, you are using random twitter handles as "proof" of something, so thats a rough start right there. I have yet to see literally one single person do this. I havent seen that GIF anywhere since like the day it happened.

No one is  actually praising anything he has done. Saying "I'll wait to see what the plan is, and how he follows through" is not praise, but its not reactionary enough apparently so it gets your panties in a twist? Thats the only explanation for some of the attitude around here

 

Yes, all over twitter

Random twitter handles? That's quite literally what we're talking about. Bears fans all over twitter. I didn't expect the team twitter or Brad Biggs to use it. Is that what you thought I meant?

[JAF-N72EX]

Alot of you folks didn't just pull the "wait and see" card and ya'll know it....so lets just stop right there.

Ya'll took it to a whole another level by always trying to praise Poles for every move he made and I can pull up quotes on this. You guys were kissing Poles' *** all summer long so stop pretending like you weren't.

Ya'll praised Poles for signing his staff.

Ya'll praised Poles for trading Mack for pennies and using 50% of our cap space to do so. And you still do.

Ya'll were claiming Pringle was an "ascending player" and a great signing by Poles, even though history said otherwise.

Ya'll said Polks' draft was "great" ---B grade and up. Although to your point it's still early to judge, but for right now it's not looking good at all.

Ya'll said Velus wasn't a REACH because he was hand picked by Poles/Fields and was compared to Deebo (by our lil local Packer fan) and was touted as the next versatile player in the offense by many. Again still early but so far the concerns leading up to draft are justified.

Ya'll said Poles should've done more but our WR room was going to be just fine and they were being underrated (said by the aptly named "lunatic" and others).

Ya'll said the staff was going to make players better and they haven't.

I could keep going on and on. You guys said alot of **** that was nothing but bull**** based on nothing more than the kool aid you're drinking. And for you sit here and try to sit on this high pedestal is freaking laughable. 

Everything I thought (IN MY OPINION AT THE TIME) Poles did wrong wasn't on based on natural hate for POLES himself. It was based on film and watching these guys and drawing my very own opinions.

All of us (without blind eyes anyways) are seeing what's happening,  but alot of you guys spent months defending this while others were pointing out the obvious.

 

 

 

[JAF-N72EX]

13 hours ago, Bigbear72 said:

So, several things here.

First, where besides a few people on this forum have you seen people spewing these "King Poles" statements? Most things that I have read outside of this forum on the internet have done pretty much the opposite. There will always be extreme takes on any situation (you are a prime example) but as a whole everything that I have read says that no one thinks we are in a good position and thinks that Poles didn't do enough to put Fields in a position to be successful. 

Second, isn't it painfully obvious that this is a rebuild? Anybody can see that. Why does Poles have to say "by the way everyone, we are rebuilding"? If you saw a tiger outside of your door would someone have to tell you that it would be dangerous to go outside? Probably not because that would be stating the obvious. Same thing here.

Third, even if you are upset with the team how does that translate to launching insults at people for disagreeing with you?

Fourth, you still haven't stated how this schtick was better outside of "you're mad and you're not gonna take it anymore."  That may be the case but it doesn't equal better.

And @CBears019, I like you, but you shouldn't say **** and stay the **** out of any conversation on this forum because you don't even have the balls to post your own opinions on anything.

For you to even "like" this comment (or any other) is some bicth ****.  I'm just being real.

You're a mod and you don't even post your opinions on anything, even though you're logged in regularly. That's some weak **** IMO.

Edited October 7, 2022 by JAF-N72EX

[JAF-N72EX]

If you have an opinion, fine. Post it. We wanna hear it. But don't sit on the sidelines and only voice your opinion in weak subtle ways.  That's *****.

Edited October 7, 2022 by JAF-N72EX

[Bigbear72]

1 hour ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Alot of you folks didn't just pull the "wait and see" card and ya'll know it....so lets just stop right there.

Ya'll took it to a whole another level by always trying to praise Poles for every move he made and I can pull up quotes on this. You guys were kissing Poles' *** all summer long so stop pretending like you weren't.

Ya'll praised Poles for signing his staff.

Ya'll praised Poles for trading Mack for pennies and using 50% of our cap space to do so. And you still do.

Ya'll were claiming Pringle was an "ascending player" and a great signing by Poles, even though history said otherwise.

Ya'll said Polks' draft was "great" ---B grade and up. Although to your point it's still early to judge, but for right now it's not looking good at all.

Ya'll said Velus wasn't a REACH because he was hand picked by Poles/Fields and was compared to Deebo (by our lil local Packer fan) and was touted as the next versatile player in the offense by many. Again still early but so far the concerns leading up to draft are justified.

Ya'll said Poles should've done more but our WR room was going to be just fine and they were being underrated (said by the aptly named "lunatic" and others).

Ya'll said the staff was going to make players better and they haven't.

I could keep going on and on. You guys said alot of **** that was nothing but bull**** based on nothing more than the kool aid you're drinking. And for you sit here and try to sit on this high pedestal is freaking laughable. 

Everything I thought (IN MY OPINION AT THE TIME) Poles did wrong wasn't on based on natural hate for POLES himself. It was based on film and watching these guys and drawing my very own opinions.

All of us (without blind eyes anyways) are seeing what's happening,  but alot of you guys spent months defending this while others were pointing out the obvious.

 

 

 

Just so we are clear, are you including me in this post because I have been extremely clear that I have been in the wait and see camp? 

[CBears019]

5 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

And @CBears019, I like you, but you shouldn't say **** and stay the **** out of any conversation on this forum because you don't even have the balls to post your own opinions on anything.

For you to even "like" this comment (or any other) is some bicth ****.  I'm just being real.

You're a mod and you don't even post your opinions on anything, even though you're logged in regularly. That's some weak **** IMO.

First off, I can post however I please and I can like whichever posts I please.  I do not need your approval to do anything and I don’t come to this site to please you.

Second, you've been on this site long enough to know that if you have an issue with moderation you should take it up with the moderators via PM.  

You're getting a warning for this post.

[Bigbear72]

42 minutes ago, CBears019 said:

First off, I can post however I please and I can like whichever posts I please.  I do not need your approval to do anything and I don’t come to this site to please you.

Second, you've been on this site long enough to know that if you have an issue with moderation you should take it up with the moderators via PM.  

You're getting a warning for this post.

[StLunatic88]

7 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

Alot of you folks didn't just pull the "wait and see" card and ya'll know it....so lets just stop right there.

Dude, I dont have the time nor do I particularly want to go through all this nonsense yet again with you, but what you have laid out here does not encompass any single poster on this forum. This is an amalgamation of like 6-7-8 posters who have said some of these things, but you just mash them all together in order to yell about it. This is why I constantly say you are arguing with yourself, because you accuse everyone about everything you dont like. At this point is seems you are even mashing up stuff from outside this forum as well. 

I mean, you are trying to use Velus against all of us, while in reality this forum EXPLODED with doubt and questions when he was picked, but you some how are painting everyone you deem a "Poles rider" with that brush. 

And please tell me where I ever said the WRs were going to be "fine". Id love to see that. Because saying that I think Moony is capable of being a #1 option and that our Top 3 weapons (add in Monty and Kmet) should be enough to see what Fields is made of, does not constitute being happy with what we have. Again, you are projecting an argument you want to make, which is really something by someone who flies off the handle when you believe that someone "puts words in your mouth"

[abstract_thought]

24 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said:

Because saying that I think Moony is capable of being a #1 option and that our Top 3 weapons (add in Monty and Kmet) should be enough to see what Fields is made of, does not constitute being happy with what we have.

Do you still think the Bears have enough to see what Fields is made of? And if so, have you drawn any conclusions from these last 4 games?

I find it hard to evaluate most of the offense right now because so much of it is a mess. I don't think there's enough stability around Fields to say "yep, he's the guy" or "nope, he's not it."

[Ty21]

8 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

And @CBears019, I like you, but you shouldn't say **** and stay the **** out of any conversation on this forum because you don't even have the balls to post your own opinions on anything.

For you to even "like" this comment (or any other) is some bicth ****.  I'm just being real.

You're a mod and you don't even post your opinions on anything, even though you're logged in regularly. That's some weak **** IMO.

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