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I hope the Cavs are watching this Jordan documentary 

we should not pass on Anthony Edwards for the sake of positional value 

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I feel like MJ pre-dynasty doesn’t get enough credit. Kinda glad the documentary will touch on it. His playoff stats were freaking bonkers.

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Friendly reminder that MJ is the GOAT. That documentary checked about every single box for me in a time where it was desperately needed. MJ was a stone cold killer and the ultimate talent meets killer instinct/work ethic player in any/every sport.

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18 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Friendly reminder that MJ is the GOAT. That documentary checked about every single box for me in a time where it was desperately needed. MJ was a stone cold killer and the ultimate talent meets killer instinct/work ethic player in any/every sport.

Yep. Jordan was easily the best player I’ve ever watched. 

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MJ is one of those few all time great's that wasn't an "urban legend". His ability to hit every shot on the court and still get to the rim, in a more physical NBA, while playing lockdown D, and refusing to "cash it in" at any point during the regular season...it's truly special. He was Michael Jordan EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

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27 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Friendly reminder that MJ is the GOAT. That documentary checked about every single box for me in a time where it was desperately needed. MJ was a stone cold killer and the ultimate talent meets killer instinct/work ethic player in any/every sport.

Not aimed at you, but I hate the GOAT argument tbh.  How do you compare across eras/generations?  How do you compare a center to a SG?  
 

I think it’s most appropriate to say he was the greatest of his era and one of the best ever.  I think the same can be said for guys like LeBron and Wilt.

I also think Jordan seems to get put on a pedestal for his competitiveness, which is all well and good, but a lot of his behavior that of an arsehole imo.

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Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Not aimed at you, but I hate the GOAT argument tbh.  How do you compare across eras/generations?  How do you compare a center to a SG?  
 

I get that. For example, no one will ever convince me that anyone other than Jerry Rice is the GOAT.

Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

I think it’s most appropriate to say he was the greatest of his era and one of the best ever.  I think the same can be said for guys like LeBron and Wilt.

This is basketball. Make a hot take. 

Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

I also think Jordan seems to get put on a pedestal for his competitiveness, which is all well and good, but a lot of his behavior that of an arsehole imo.

It’s a fine line. LeBron would have wanted to be banana boat buddies and MJ would have wanted to steal his soul. I mean, the way he’s wired is almost alarming. He still hates Isaiah, still holds a grudge about his sophomore year of HS, is still bitter about how it all ended in Chicago, etc. That said, I do agree that they should have been given the right to defend what was theirs until they lost/were dethroned.

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8 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

I get that. For example, no one will ever convince me that anyone other than Jerry Rice is the GOAT.

it’s a very dependent position.  Playing with Young and Montana sure does help a receiver.

I look at a guy like Megatron or Moss and wonder what they’d have done with QB’s like that for most of their career.

8 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

This is basketball. Make a hot take. 
 

Boobie Gibson is the GOAT.

8 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

It’s a fine line. LeBron would have wanted to be banana boat buddies and MJ would have wanted to steal his soul. I mean, the way he’s wired is almost alarming. He still hates Isaiah, still holds a grudge about his sophomore year of HS, is still bitter about how it all ended in Chicago, etc. That said, I do agree that they should have been given the right to defend what was theirs until they lost/were dethroned.

He was a bully, simple as that.  He has unhealthy obsession with winning.  It’s one thing to be competitive on the court, but there are plenty of there examples of him being essentially a psycho about it for irrelevant stuff like golf and cards.

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It's a generational thing

LeBron: Smarter, stronger, chill, better social media presence, more polished game, probably burns

Jordan: Beaten as child, undiagnosed autism, more championships

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29 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Kevin Durant is the most talented player of all time. 
 

Fight me. 

That's a bad take. 

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1 minute ago, BleedTheClock said:

That's a bad take. 

Nope. It’s the right take. His shooting+handles+rebounding+defense+
Athletic ability combined at that size. No one has ever seen that before. Put him in the East like lebron was and lebron doesn’t have a cake walk to the East every year. 

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Just now, sdrawkcab321 said:

Nope. It’s the right take. His shooting+handles+rebounding+defense+
Athletic ability combined at that size. No one has ever seen that before. Put him in the East like lebron was and lebron doesn’t have a cake walk to the East every year. 

It’s a fair take imo.

He’s the most skilled offensive player I’ve ever seen.  Elite shooter with unlimited range who can get a shot off against anyone.

Good defender, elite help defender.

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36 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Kevin Durant is the most talented player of all time. 
 

Fight me. 

Good take

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1 hour ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Nope. It’s the right take. His shooting+handles+rebounding+defense+
Athletic ability combined at that size. No one has ever seen that before. Put him in the East like lebron was and lebron doesn’t have a cake walk to the East every year. 

Prime Bron poops on prime KD. 

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