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8 minutes ago, brownie man said:

I’m in no rush to trade Allen

just be patient 

We got a first rounder next year we can move if necessary 

let’s see how we do in the shifts before we try to break the team up 

No we don’t. You can’t trade picks 2 years in a row. So it’ll be 2031 until we can trade a pick. 

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Philly's magic number to lock the Cavs out of the 3 seed is 2. They have a 2-1/2 game lead with 4 to play for them, 3 for us.

We have to win out (which we easily could do - 2 at Orlando, and at home vs Charlotte) and the Sixers have to lose out for the Cavs to jump the Sixers. I believe Philly owns the tiebreaker. So this is highly unlikely we get higher than 4.

Our magic number to lock the Knicks out of the 4 seed is one. After Friday night's abysmal collapse, we owe those guys. They were the hungrier and more focused team Friday - and we played like everything was already all settled. I hope JB cracked some butts after that showing.

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On 4/2/2023 at 6:37 PM, brownie man said:

I’m in no rush to trade Allen

just be patient 

We got a first rounder next year we can move if necessary 

let’s see how we do in the shifts before we try to break the team up 

It’s like people don’t see how bad we play when Allen misses games. 

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9 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

We’re bad because we’re missing a starting quality player. Replacing him with a wing who’s of equal value and we’d be better 

It's definitely possible, and we should be having these conversations every year. We're a contender at this point and you do what you need to do to get better. We should definitely consider the possibility of swapping Allen for an equally gifted and valuable wing. 

That said, Allen/Mobley is what makes our defense tops in the league. So you aren't doing the move just to even out the roster towards wings, it has to be a specific wing that you think elevates the team.

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2 hours ago, FGK said:

It's definitely possible, and we should be having these conversations every year. We're a contender at this point and you do what you need to do to get better. We should definitely consider the possibility of swapping Allen for an equally gifted and valuable wing. 

That said, Allen/Mobley is what makes our defense tops in the league. So you aren't doing the move just to even out the roster towards wings, it has to be a specific wing that you think elevates the team.

Our slow pace of play makes us the “best defense in the league” there’s nothing special about this defend other than Mobley. The wings are horrid and can’t stop anything in transition. 

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1 hour ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Our slow pace of play makes us the “best defense in the league” there’s nothing special about this defend other than Mobley. The wings are horrid and can’t stop anything in transition. 

So all you have to do is play at a slow pace and have one really good defender to have the #1 defense in the league, got it.

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17 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said:

So all you have to do is play at a slow pace and have one really good defender to have the #1 defense in the league, got it.

Well if you watch the games it’s pretty obvious this isnt the best defense in the league. We play at the slowest pace in the league. So the stats look good on paper. 

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26 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Well if you watch the games it’s pretty obvious this isnt the best defense in the league. We play at the slowest pace in the league. So the stats look good on paper. 

I’ve watched 90% + of our games this year. You realize it’s possible for teams to play slow and still play bad defense, right? Our defense passes the eye test just fine. If anything the problem has been we wait until the 4th quarter to really turn it on, but when we are locked in we are easily a top 3 defense no matter what way you look at it and that’s because of Jarrett Allen and Mobley.

If anything it seems like you’re the one not watching games. Man being a Cleveland fan only for basketball is tough, a lot of you guys are just so negative. 

 

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5 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said:

I’ve watched 90% + of our games this year. You realize it’s possible for teams to play slow and still play bad defense, right? Our defense passes the eye test just fine. If anything the problem has been we wait until the 4th quarter to really turn it on, but when we are locked in we are easily a top 3 defense no matter what way you look at it and that’s because of Jarrett Allen and Mobley.

If anything it seems like you’re the one not watching games. Man being a Cleveland fan only for basketball is tough, a lot of you guys are just so negative. 

 

To be fair, that's @sdrawkcab321''s schtick on this forum.

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