CriminalMind Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Phire said: First, ain't nobody here talking about opponent bulk win% as a tiebreaker, and second, that would still be a horribly lazy and flawed way to do it. You must be forgetting, that if both Philly and Minny go 14-2 for example, strength of victory is likely the "playable" tiebreak for seeding. (1) h2h = none, 2) potentially equal conference record, 3) common games: not enough to factor, 4) strength of victory 5) strength of schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: You must be forgetting, that if both Philly and Minny go 14-2 for example, strength of victory is likely the "playable" tiebreak for seeding. (1) h2h = none, 2) potentially equal conference record, 3) common games: not enough to factor, 4) strength of victory 5) strength of schedule Minny is 7-1 in NFC play. Philly is 8-0 in NFC play. If the Eagles only loss in your hypothetical 14-2 scenario is to the Raiders, they would hold the conference tie breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 By the way, is it time to put this thread to bed? Saints struggled against the Redskins, who the Eagles swept this season, and now suffered their 2nd loss of the season the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralBill Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, 808 said: By the way, is it time to put this thread to bed? Saints struggled against the Redskins, who the Eagles swept this season, and now suffered their 2nd loss of the season the following week. No. We can't move the Saints from #1 until every single player of theirs is 100% healthy and then lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, RuralBill said: No. We can't move the Saints from #1 until every single player of theirs is 100% healthy and then lose. So the injury argument is valid here? Is one of the greatest QBs of all time not starting for the Saints? What about the Eagles losing Jason Peters, and eventual HOF LT? They seem to continue winning without him. How about Darren Sproles? He's out for the year too. Oh and Jordan Hicks is out for the year, somehow the defense hasn't missed a beat. What about Edelman in New England? How is that impacting the team? What about Sam Bradford in Minny? How are they doing with their backup leading the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, 808 said: So the injury argument is valid here? Is one of the greatest QBs of all time not starting for the Saints? What about the Eagles losing Jason Peters, and eventual HOF LT? They seem to continue winning without him. How about Darren Sproles? He's out for the year too. Oh and Jordan Hicks is out for the year, somehow the defense hasn't missed a beat. What about Edelman in New England? How is that impacting the team? What about Sam Bradford in Minny? How are they doing with their backup leading the team? p sure he was being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralBill Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, 808 said: So the injury argument is valid here? Is one of the greatest QBs of all time not starting for the Saints? I'm with you. Just impersonating some Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, RuralBill said: I'm with you. Just impersonating some Saints fans. My fault dude, it's early out here on the west coast. Well played. A good buddy of mine is a Sants fan out here in LA too, he used the same excuse yesterday. Struck a chord with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RuralBill said: I'm with you. Just impersonating some Saints fans. If you're going to impersonate Saints fans, you should accuse him of never watching the Saints play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: I always love when people like you want to point to SOS but conveniently ignore the fact your basing it off "This years" current records. When in fact the SOS going "into" the season based off last year's Standings are/were the true SOS!! Eagles came into the season with the 10th hardest schedule, Rams 17th. Just because teams like every season are moving up and down Throughout the Standings doesn't change the fact the Eagles were supposed to of played a harder schedule. You play who you play. You know just like the Rams playing teams like the Redskins, Giants, Cowboys, Colts, Texans, Niners and Cards. You know what they say about casting stones from glass houses, right? http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/234722/2017-nfl-strength-of-schedule Supposed to and did are not the same thing... The true SoS is not last year's because what happened last year has absolutely no baring on this year other than 2 games each team plays. The reality is the Eagles have the easiest SoS amongst all post-season contenders. Can one argue that the Eagles are blowing out teams so it doesn't matter? Certainly. However, to sit here and pretend that SoS isn't a valid argument against the Eagles is ridiculous as teams with easy SoS have traditionally faltered in the post-season regardless of seed. Who knows what the Eagles do come the post-season but let's not pretend that they, like any other division leader, don't have questions. Maybe less than others, but that SoS has to be a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Tier 1: Eagles Tier 2: Vikings Patriots Tier 3: Rams Saints Tier 4: Bunch of teams Nice to be a Tier 4 Team that dominated a Tier 2 Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Phire said: The "easy schedule" argument is literally dumb. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy because the Eagles have added 10 losses to their opponents by beating them. Taking bulk collective winning percentages is lazy and obviously flawed (this isn't even worthy of debate). Also, the vast majority of NFL teams just plain suck. What winning team hasn't had a relatively easy schedule? So something that is "literally dumb" factors into post-season seeding every year? Sorry, this isn't college football. See two posts above. It seems only Eagles fans think SoS doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, BlaqOptic said: Nice to be a Tier 4 Team that dominated a Tier 2 Team. Yep. I attribute it understandably to him being a rival fan (Philly), but no one can truthfully place Pittsburgh that low. They are a tier 2 team at worst. I know people want to move them down after playing GB close last night, but what were they expecting? Pittsburgh always plays down to opponents. Nothing has changed since they were highly ranked before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus mode Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, RuralBill said: No. We can't move the Saints from #1 until every single player of theirs is 100% healthy and then lose. Nice strawman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLick12 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, BlaqOptic said: So something that is "literally dumb" factors into post-season seeding every year? Sorry, this isn't college football. See two posts above. It seems only Eagles fans think SoS doesn't matter. Does the NFL using something "literally dumb" to make a decision really seem that outlandish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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