bucsfan333 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 The whole idea of "don't give up the big play" has killed us all year. Guys are so worried about getting beaten deep, they're giving up everything short. We are (or were) giving up almost 70% completions. Combine that with all the stupid stunts and shuffling we're doing up front and QBs have zero pressure AND they get rid of the ball almost immediately. So it's the worst of both, on our part. We've been running kind of a hybrid 4/3 3/3/5 defense lately. I think the idea is to try and disguise what our safeties are doing to try and confuse QBs. The whole one guy drops deep, one plays robber is a cool concept in theory. But it's only worked like 10 of 26 times. I understand why communication is so important with this type of defense. But we need to try something different, whether we're communicating or not. Evans is the only safety we have that can really play center field. So we need to take advantage of that and use Ward to HIS strength; around the LOS. Especially in the 3/3/5. It doesn't matter if other teams know what we're doing (for the most part) if we execute. But we try to get cutesy and end up confusing ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingone Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 @indifference , you made me think about what has changed with the defense this year from last year. So, I dug into some stats from last year. Full disclosure, I went with the entire season stats as opposed to a half of a season because I'm trying to get a complete picture of the Mike Smith defense. As we all know, the Bucs had the best 3rd down % efficiency in the league last season. What is interesting is the team had the 3rd fewest 3rd down attempts against them in the league. By comparison, they have the 8th most against this season. They finished last season 22nd in yds/game this year 28th, so I do think the luster of the 3rd down efficiency is diminished because with the amount of yards given up would suggest 1st and 2nd down were pretty plentiful. Considering they were 24th in yds/play makes the 3rd down efficiency even less exciting, while this year 28th. Finally Pts/gm was 14th last season, while this year it is currently at 16 th. Basically, Mike Smith's defense pretty much relies on creating the turnover. They bleed a lot of yards and rely on the offense to make a mistake, which is not surprising considering the passive zone defense they generally play. Basically, I don't think a whole lot has changed from last year to this season, just stats in certain areas have been rearranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, ravishingone said: @indifference , you made me think about what has changed with the defense this year from last year. So, I dug into some stats from last year. Full disclosure, I went with the entire season stats as opposed to a half of a season because I'm trying to get a complete picture of the Mike Smith defense. As we all know, the Bucs had the best 3rd down % efficiency in the league last season. What is interesting is the team had the 3rd fewest 3rd down attempts against them in the league. By comparison, they have the 8th most against this season. They finished last season 22nd in yds/game this year 28th, so I do think the luster of the 3rd down efficiency is diminished because with the amount of yards given up would suggest 1st and 2nd down were pretty plentiful. Considering they were 24th in yds/play makes the 3rd down efficiency even less exciting, while this year 28th. Finally Pts/gm was 14th last season, while this year it is currently at 16 th. Basically, Mike Smith's defense pretty much relies on creating the turnover. They bleed a lot of yards and rely on the offense to make a mistake, which is not surprising considering the passive zone defense they generally play. Basically, I don't think a whole lot has changed from last year to this season, just stats in certain areas have been rearranged. Thanks for the info. We are on the positive swing last year IIRC with TO differential which was key to our 9-7 season. This year I bet the + and - is much closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: I love it. These next 6 weeks we will get to see who is really as good as advertised and who isn't. Big evaluation period for guys like J Evans, Beckwith, and VG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Good thing we have Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 There's the explanation. Though I don't get it with the emergence of Godwin. We're not gonna need five WRs with Howard/Brate and the way we use Sims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sryan66611 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: RIP... Dude is gonna be a star with the pats next year lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, sryan66611 said: RIP... Dude is gonna be a star with the pats next year lol. He fits the mold of their quick passing game. He just needs to work on his routes, which he'll definitely get in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sryan66611 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: He fits the mold of their quick passing game. He just needs to work on his routes, which he'll definitely get in New England. Yea I actually liked Reedy, not just his return ability but I thought he was alright in preseason too some of the screens and stuff we ran with im were pretty nice. Only time will tell im sure he will fit in nicely with the Pats he has a great attitude and a stand up guy which is what they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 13 hours ago, sryan66611 said: RIP... Dude is gonna be a star with the pats next year lol. i 2nd this, he's going to be a monster now lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So close to the Butt Safety becoming a reality. That challenge really kept the Bucs in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 We probably lose with that safety. They'd have gotten the free punt and we couldn't stop them from passing all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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