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Our #2QB - A Question and Possible Solution


Just Want A Title

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I agree the backups are trash, which why it still amazes me they were extended. However, 4th or 5th pick is pretty steep for someone we hope never sees the field. I'd rather use that pick to draft a backup next year or pick up a former starter as a backup either through cuts or next year's free agency. I fully expect this team to be a 6-9 win team this year, and they still have too many holes that I want to lose resources with. And as other have stated, I believe this year is all about Goff. If he's not it, I'm going to want that 4th or 5th to move way up if necessary.
Regardless, I would still like to have at minimum a mid round pick next year to develop as a backup.

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I'll take anyone. I'm seeing/hearing from writers that Blough is very popular in the locker room and that Goff really trusts him, which I get, but the dude can't play. Keep him on the practice squad if that's an option, or keep him around for a couple of weeks to help with someone else, but we need a different option out there. If you really like Blough then see if maybe he's interested in coaching instead. 

Boyle is ***. Dude has a strong arm and that's it. He may be great at analyzing film or something but there's not much between his ears out there on the field. 

They have to bring someone else in. Campbell is all about pushing everyone and getting the best from his roster and you can't say that they're doing that at QB. If you want people to believe that you think you can be competitive this year then you need a backup QB that gives you a chance to win a game or two if Goff gets dinged up. 

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2 minutes ago, Lions017 said:

I'll take anyone. I'm seeing/hearing from writers that Blough is very popular in the locker room and that Goff really trusts him, which I get, but the dude can't play. Keep him on the practice squad if that's an option, or keep him around for a couple of weeks to help with someone else, but we need a different option out there. If you really like Blough then see if maybe he's interested in coaching instead. 

Boyle is ***. Dude has a strong arm and that's it. He may be great at analyzing film or something but there's not much between his ears out there on the field. 

They have to bring someone else in. Campbell is all about pushing everyone and getting the best from his roster and you can't say that they're doing that at QB. If you want people to believe that you think you can be competitive this year then you need a backup QB that gives you a chance to win a game or two if Goff gets dinged up. 

Nathan Rourke from the CFL is an legitimate option that wont cost us any draft capital.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/26/dan-campbell-detroit-lions-backup-qb-blough-boyle-potential-to-add-free-agent-nathan-rourke/

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19 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said:

Nathan Rourke from the CFL is an legitimate option that wont cost us any draft capital.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/26/dan-campbell-detroit-lions-backup-qb-blough-boyle-potential-to-add-free-agent-nathan-rourke/

From the article:
"Alas, Rourke quite recently suffered a Lisfranc injury to his foot and is out for some time." This is usually not a quick recovery.

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18 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said:

Nathan Rourke from the CFL is an legitimate option that wont cost us any draft capital.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/26/dan-campbell-detroit-lions-backup-qb-blough-boyle-potential-to-add-free-agent-nathan-rourke/

He's set to undergo surgery for a lisfranc sprain. The CFL season fishes the end of October (October 28). Assuming the BC Lions don't make the playoffs, you're bringing in a guy week 9 at the very earliest. 

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10 hours ago, jrry32 said:

He's right, though. If Goff goes down, he's done in Detroit, and the Lions should tank for the #1 pick.

It's a shame, but I've always felt this way. If you're not expected to compete in the playoffs, and your QB goes down, you should want as much draft capital as possible. I thought this was the one thing that Quinn/Patricia did well: when we lost Stafford, they rode the losses to better draft capital instead of spending draft capital to acquire a more capable but still incapable option.

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https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/29/detroit-lions-should-cut-tim-boyle-and-david-blough/

“Here’s what I would say,” Campbell said when questioned about the battle for QB2 in Detroit. “It became very clear. I think we got things answered. And I would leave it at that.” - Dan Campbell

I think the only thing that became very clear is there is nothing behind Goff. I think they are going to make a move on someone else, but you have to keep one.

I will say, I'm glad this is my complaint vs last year where we didn't have anything anywhere outside of OL. So I'll take that as trending in the right direction.
 

The abysmal QB play also helped get a look at the D which didn't perform bad in the first half. It was also nice to see Okudah make a few nice plays. I feel a little more confident in this defense than I did earlier in the preseason, but emphasis is on "a little more".  But if Goff goes down, we are screwed, both offensively and defensively.

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All I will say is, if the Lions decide to tank then they better be ready to blow the whole coaching staff out and start over. You can't undermine those guys, especially with the rah-rah style they have, by telling them we're OK wasting this season, and then think they're just going to pick the momentum back up in 23. That would be the stupidest move.

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1 hour ago, Superduperman said:

All I will say is, if the Lions decide to tank then they better be ready to blow the whole coaching staff out and start over. You can't undermine those guys, especially with the rah-rah style they have, by telling them we're OK wasting this season, and then think they're just going to pick the momentum back up in 23. That would be the stupidest move.

I agree 100%.  You can't change the culture if you bail on the season before it starts and resign yourself to losing.  Somehow, I don't see Dan Campbell or Brad Holmes embracing that kind of strategy

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1 hour ago, Just Want A Title said:

I agree 100%.  You can't change the culture if you bail on the season before it starts and resign yourself to losing.  Somehow, I don't see Dan Campbell or Brad Holmes embracing that kind of strategy

If that don't embrace that strategy, and that's possible, they'll do something to bolster the backup QB position. If they don't, that might be a sign.

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3 hours ago, Superduperman said:

All I will say is, if the Lions decide to tank then they better be ready to blow the whole coaching staff out and start over. You can't undermine those guys, especially with the rah-rah style they have, by telling them we're OK wasting this season, and then think they're just going to pick the momentum back up in 23. That would be the stupidest move.

I'd love to talk about this more with you. I think you have an interesting perspective.

Do you think tanking is ever a reasonable decision? If so, why?

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If the Lions are going into week 11 and they're 2-8, then certainly I can see saying OK, the rest of the season we'll get our rookies some PT, the coaches and players will still be expected to give a great effort but as an organization we aren't going to try too hard to rescue this thing.

Deliberately leaving a hole in your roster before week 1 and saying if our starting QB gets hurt, then we'll just pull the ripcord on the whole season, is such a totally different thing. It would be total incompetence and negligence to do that.

 

Edit: But in both scenarios, you'd probably blow your coaching staff out after the season, especially if they're in year 2 or beyond. You're leaving thejm out to dry in the first place, so you obviously have no respect for them anyway.

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