Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: Tua, top 5 QB heard By that logic Burrow is a bottom 5 QB. Logic is missing in your debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: By that logic Burrow is a bottom 5 QB. Logic is missing in your debate. I don't care about last year or previous results, only current system amirite? Or does that not work anymore for what you started with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: I don't care about last year or previous results, only current system amirite? Or does that not work anymore for what you started with It's about change. Flacco has been good in this system so why hate on him? You're acting like he's at a 1:1 ratio of TDs to INTs with us or something. 8:1 as a Jet under this system and talent around him. Tua is far from an elite QB. But guess what? He's in a NEW SYSTEM and has talent around him. I don't think anyone is surprised to see him breakout this year. Burrow is far from a bottom tier QB. He's struggling bc his OL isn't helping him. No QB in this league can play at a top level with no time to throw. CIN has talent on the OL... so I think it's just a matter of time until we see the Burrow we all thought we'd see this year. You take things and generalize them. Not taking any circumstances and change into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Bobby816 said: It's about change. Flacco has been good in this system so why hate on him? You're acting like he's at a 1:1 ratio of TDs to INTs with us or something. 8:1 as a Jet under this system and talent around him. Tua is far from an elite QB. But guess what? He's in a NEW SYSTEM and has talent around him. I don't think anyone is surprised to see him breakout this year. Burrow is far from a bottom tier QB. He's struggling bc his OL isn't helping him. No QB in this league can play at a top level with no time to throw. CIN has talent on the OL... so I think it's just a matter of time until we see the Burrow we all thought we'd see this year. You take things and generalize them. Not taking any circumstances and change into consideration. Tua has been elite in his current system, so why hate on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, bcb1213 said: Tua has been elite in his current system, so why hate on him Certainly not hating on him. I think he's going to be very good. Just not ready to call him elite through 2 games. But yes if you asked me 3 weeks ago who I thought would be the biggest breakout QB, I would've said Tua. So by no means am I hating on him. Just not anointing him to elite status. Same way as I'm not ready to say Burrow sucks bc of a couple bad games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I'm gonna be a optimist, I think we can pull this one off. TBH I think we match up better vs the Bengals than we did vs the Browns. The Browns are a smash mouth team that bullied our DL, our DL is kinda small and they have a elite OL, top 3 in the league with the best pure RB in the NFL. THe Bengals are more finesse, which is a better match up for our defense. This is a game our DL needs to break out and get after the QB, the Bengals OL has looked bad first 2 games. Time to get after it. If our offense shows up again, I think we can pull off another upset. This Jets offense has legit talent, it isn't a bottom tier offense anymore. The run game is close to breaking out, I feel like Breece Hall is getting close to breaking off a long TD run. The WRs are legit and get open, full of playmakers. The QB's job on our offense is pretty easy, because we have so many playmakers it's just about getting them the ball. I believe we can pull off a upset and put the Bengals 0-3, as the Bengals suffer from the curse of teams who lose in the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Certainly not hating on him. I think he's going to be very good. Just not ready to call him elite through 2 games. But yes if you asked me 3 weeks ago who I thought would be the biggest breakout QB, I would've said Tua. So by no means am I hating on him. Just not anointing him to elite status. Same way as I'm not ready to say Burrow sucks bc of a couple bad games. and the same way i'm not willing to say Joe Flacco is great at limiting turnovers Edited September 20, 2022 by bcb1213 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, bcb1213 said: and the same way i'm not willing to say Joe Flacco is not great at limiting turnovers But you're taking a career average that goes back 14 years as part of that. Eliminating what he's done recently. And when I mean recently I mean the last 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: But you're taking a career average that goes back 14 years as part of that. Eliminating what he's done recently. And when I mean recently I mean the last 2-3 years. Flacco has been good in this system so why hate on him? You're acting like he's at a 1:1 ratio of TDs to INTs with us or something. 8:1 as a Jet under this system and talent around him. you gave me a stat for literally 3.5 games. Stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: you gave me a stat for literally 3.5 games. Stop it No Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, jetsfan4life51 said: Now that you mention it, we NEVER blitz. I didn't realize that until now. I feel like our D would be so much better if we actually did. The fact they want to simply rush 4 and drop into coverage nearly 95% of the time is alarming. We have the horses now, a good coach would actually do well with this personnel on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, ekill08x said: I feel like our D would be so much better if we actually did. The fact they want to simply rush 4 and drop into coverage nearly 95% of the time is alarming. We have the horses now, a good coach would actually do well with this personnel on D. Thats really the basis of the cover three/one look is that you almost always only rush four on early downs and blitz only in obvious passing situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, ekill08x said: I feel like our D would be so much better if we actually did. The fact they want to simply rush 4 and drop into coverage nearly 95% of the time is alarming. We have the horses now, a good coach would actually do well with this personnel on D. I believe that is called playing scared. The coaches are so “scared” of giving up big plays, they are willing to let teams sachet down the field and score. But, hey, at least it wasn’t on a 60 yard pass play. Come on guys, show some cajones. Bring back Williams as an advisor and meet in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Ideally we get Reed vs Chase as often as we can. And can get Sauce vs Higgins as much as we can. But movement and all can alter that obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 If the D-Line doesn't show out this game I am going to be worried. This Bengals line is in shambles and we should punish them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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