RSkinGM Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Any you guys old enough to remember George Allen on the sidelines.. Licking his thumb , applauding, pacing---SHOWING EMOTION ! Even Gibbs would grab players by the collar and get in their face. I'm so sick of stoicism ! This D needs some fire.. It's not coming from JDR. Players do respond to emotion IMHO but just wishful thinking on my part- Doesn't seem to be in his character. Though- he can be profane like after a big win last year with F----g let's go ! I'm feeling my Howard Beale side this morning I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Sub .500 record after the 15-1 season, only three winning seasons in nine years in Carolina…..coincidentally the same number of winning seasons that Bruce Allen had here. That was with Cameron Jerrell Newton as his QB. You get what you pay for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 He has to show something this year & make the playoffs. If he doesn’t, he’d be gone if I was the owner. My guess is Snyder gives him a 4th year bc Rivera was a Gibbs pick, but I can’t take too much more of it. I can’t even listen to his press conferences anymore or when he’s on the radio. I just turn on music. His message has gone stale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 hours ago, RSkinGM said: Any you guys old enough to remember George Allen on the sidelines.. Licking his thumb , applauding, pacing---SHOWING EMOTION ! Even Gibbs would grab players by the collar and get in their face. I'm so sick of stoicism ! This D needs some fire.. It's not coming from JDR. Players do respond to emotion IMHO but just wishful thinking on my part- Doesn't seem to be in his character. Though- he can be profane like after a big win last year with F----g let's go ! I'm feeling my Howard Beale side this morning I guess. Heck, even Gruden gave us that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 11:23 AM, naptownskinsfan said: Sub .500 record after the 15-1 season, only three winning seasons in nine years in Carolina…..coincidentally the same number of winning seasons that Bruce Allen had here. That was with Cameron Jerrell Newton as his QB. You get what you pay for. And it wasn't like some of us pointed this out when he was hired or anything ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Woz said: And it wasn't like some of us pointed this out when he was hired or anything ... I was the pariah around here for over a year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, naptownskinsfan said: I was the pariah around here for over a year You were right. I didn’t want you to be right, but feared you were right all along. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, naptownskinsfan said: I was the pariah around here for over a year It was somewhat lonely in the minority. As I believe I said back then: I so hope I'm wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHatesnyder Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I like Ron Rivera….. but if we can’t get over 7 wins than he needs to go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34655816/jimmy-garoppolo-shoulder-surgery-disrupted-offseason-trade-washington-commanders-sources-say lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 hours ago, lavar703 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34655816/jimmy-garoppolo-shoulder-surgery-disrupted-offseason-trade-washington-commanders-sources-say lmao Why the laughing? He was thought to be an available QB at a reasonable price. They inquired and apparently were working towards a deal but then backed out when he had shoulder surgery. It was due diligence with perhaps thinking they had something; instead, they turned and went for Wentz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 hours ago, IHatesnyder said: I like Ron Rivera….. but if we can’t get over 7 wins than he needs to go . Five of Rivera's 11 seasons saw his team win just seven games. Amusingly, two of his four divisional crowns came when his team had just seven wins. So, expecting more than his median (and mode) win total may be asking a lot. Win distribution 5 wins (1x) = 2019 (in 12 games) 6 wins (2x) = 2011, 2016 7 wins (5x) = 2012, 2014 (with a tie; won NFC South, lost in divisional round), 2018, 2020 (won NFC East, lost in wild card round), 2021 (in 17 games) 11 wins (1x) = 2017 (wild card, lost in wild card round) 12 wins (1x) = 2013 (won NFC South, lost in divisional round) 15 wins (1x) = 2015 (won NFC South, lost in Super Bowl) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHatesnyder Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Woz said: Why the laughing? He was thought to be an available QB at a reasonable price. They inquired and apparently were working towards a deal but then backed out when he had shoulder surgery. It was due diligence with perhaps thinking they had something; instead, they turned and went for Wentz. Just the fact that we even wanted jimmy G in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, IHatesnyder said: Just the fact that we even wanted jimmy G in the first place . The draft looked to be weak for QBs. The trade price for the top tier talents was going to be astronomical (and, if Russell Wilson doesn't start playing better, disastrous), assuming those players wanted to come here at all (which doesn't seem to be the case). Garoppolo was on the block and probably for a reasonable trade value (only one year on his contract). Would I have been happy with Jimmy G? Eh. Am I surprised they pursued him? No. Would I have pursued him first if I knew Carson Wentz was available? No, but Wentz's availability only seemed to pop up after Washington went after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, Woz said: Why the laughing? He was thought to be an available QB at a reasonable price. They inquired and apparently were working towards a deal but then backed out when he had shoulder surgery. It was due diligence with perhaps thinking they had something; instead, they turned and went for Wentz. Because they claimed Wentz was the guy they identified after their extensive QB search. Reality is he was their third choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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