Why couldn't Rodgers be even slightly as successful as Brady?

[lavar703]

Brady is the Michael Jordan of Football. Just enjoy the fact that you got to watch it. 

[HerbertGOAT]

Tom Brady; if he had gone to an average team but still got a chance after developing, he would have become a very successful QB, won around 3-4 rings, and gone down in conversation for GOAT. His unprecedented luck, great defenses, and being strapped with an All-Time great coach have led to the absurd career that he had. His career is the equivalent of Joe Montana on steroids and Lawrence Taylor's cocaine, and it will never be seen again.

[malak1]

Probably because Rodgers is a junkie, tbh.

[Apparition]

Rodgers is the wrong kind of crazy

[Sad People]

20 minutes ago, Apparition said:

Rodgers is the wrong kind of crazy

Its called narcissism.

[Nightime]

8 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said:

Even Mahomes has been to more Super Bowls in four years than Rodgers managed in his entire career, though. Mahomes in 2019 and 2020 was on a better team than Rodgers in 2020 or 2021?

I don’t think any of those Packer teams were better than the 2019 Chiefs.
 

2010 GB had an elite defense though

[Apparition]

5 minutes ago, mattyice0401 said:

Its called narcissism.

yes. When what he really needs is psychotic obsessiveness.

[DontTazeMeBro]

45 minutes ago, mattyice0401 said:

Its called narcissism.

It’s 2022. If you’re anyones ex BF you’re a narcissist 

[Sad People]

4 minutes ago, DontTazeMeBro said:

It’s 2022. If you’re anyones ex BF you’re a narcissist 

Not at all, but ok.

[BayRaider]

Pats have had largely better defensive coaching is the main reason. 
 

But I’m not letting Rodgers off the hook just like that. As much as I love Rodgers, he just sticks to the game script and is WAYYY too careful… look at the 49er/Packer playoff game. No risk what so ever. Brady will take risks to win. He’ll also vanquish game scripts. Brady is a smart dude with little fear. 

Rodgers is great though. Phenomenal first ballot HoF QB. Let’s not act like the man is a scrub. He’s a Top 10 NFL QB all time. 

[Nabbs4u]

7 hours ago, biggie. said:

Brady is so old he's developed rivalries with Peyton, Rodgers AND Mahomes.

Next thing you know he'll start a rivalry with Arch Manning.

Well when your considered the GOAT , the Kobe's and LeBron's will eventually emerge to challenge said greatness.

Doesn't mean, they will ever eclipse it.

 

[ChazStandard]

4 hours ago, HerbertGOAT said:

Tom Brady; if he had gone to an average team but still got a chance after developing, he would have become a very successful QB, won around 3-4 rings, and gone down in conversation for GOAT. His unprecedented luck, great defenses, and being strapped with an All-Time great coach have led to the absurd career that he had. His career is the equivalent of Joe Montana on steroids and Lawrence Taylor's cocaine, and it will never be seen again.

Without derailing the conversation, is Brady actually lucky? Yes, there have been incidents of good luck, but there have been just as many bad luck moments, if not more. They probably break even over the years.

Really, the weird thing about Brady’s career isn’t just the winning, it’s that even in the years his teams weren't winning the SB they were always in the hunt, there were no down years or rebuilding seasons so they were always in a position to parlay a lucky break into a championship. That’s down to three factors really: an almost pathological desire to win, a consistently well coached defense and his ability to turn any collection of even vaguely capable receivers into a productive offense.

On topic, and I’ve said this before, there’s no point in asking “why isn’t Rodgers as successful as Brady?” Because nobody is. Before Brady, nobody would have looked at Rodgers’ career and said it was anything but a success.

It’s always been said before now that player got “his ring”. One or two Super Bowls were enough to prove you could go all the way. Favre, Young, Warner, Payton, Namath, Elway…none of them were branded losers for their 1 or 2 rings.

Now Rodgers and Wilson are nearing retirement with people considering they could have done more, Brees and Peyton faced the same when they hung it up. If Mahomes never wins another he’ll get the same treatment too.

Thats Brady’s greatest legacy for the sport, completely resetting the very definition of success. 

 

 

[stl4life07]

Trust issues. You see how he is doing with his young receivers now. Watson drops a potential td pass first possession of the game and ARod dont go to him again until the 4th quarter. We saw what ARod did in the playoffs last season. Lewis fumbles in the 1st half and for the rest of the game ARod only targets Adams and Jones. Even having Lazard wide open in a big possession in the 4th quarter ARod forces it into double coverage to Adams and shouldve been picked off.

ARod has all the talent and accolades but he has trust issues and he is too passive. Yes we praise him for not throwing alot of ints but part of not throwing ints is not taking too many chances. The great QBs who win Superbowls take chances. Brady take chances, Peyton took chances, Mahomes take chances. And not only that but ARod literally thinks he is the smartest person in the room from how he comes across personality wise.

Its such ashame too bc ARod has the talent and he has the right organization that he should at least have three Superbowls and many more Superbowl appearances under his belt. I get Superbowls are hard but if you are all world talented like ARod is and you are in a great organization like Green Bay that should be at least half of what Brady was able to accomplish in New England or heck even in Tampa. It feels like Brady in Tampa has had more team success just in his short time there than ARod has had in all of his career in Green Bay.

In the end ARod is going to go down as someone who shouldve had more success than he had and nobody will ever be able to blame anyone other than ARod himself.

[CP3MVP]

2020 was their year and they just flat out blew it at home

[FrantikRam]

Brady is just better in big moments.

I think you can point to Brady's first Super Bowl and compare it to Rodgers against the Niners last year in the divisional round.

Brady was inexperienced, playing with a worse offense, in a bigger moment, against a better defense - and led a FG drive to win.

Last year after the blocked punt, Rodgers couldn't drive the Packers to FG range and he had one of the best WRs in football.

There are other examples, but that stark comparison IMO highlights the differences in the two.